Around the League: The Off-season

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Cap wrote:
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So, NBA fans in China are going to lose their games because Morey said something in support of protestors? Whom are they going to blame for that?
whomever the state media tells them to blame.

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Cap wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:34 am
So, NBA fans in China are going to lose their games because Morey said something in support of protestors? Whom are they going to blame for that?
this is the outcome china wants for daryl morey

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I don't like the Barkley comparison for zion.

Zion is finesse and a likely in below average rebounder in the NBA.

Barkley likes to smash into people and do the dirty work.

Nobody's afraid to take a charge against Zion.

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SDC wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:28 am
I don't like the Barkley comparison for zion.

Zion is finesse and a likely in below average rebounder in the NBA.

Barkley likes to smash into people and do the dirty work.

Nobody's afraid to take a charge against Zion.
Finesse? Did you see some of his nasty power dunks? I assure you guys aren't going to, without any fear, take a charge against him.
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SDC wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:28 am
I don't like the Barkley comparison for zion.

Zion is finesse and a likely in below average rebounder in the NBA.

Barkley likes to smash into people and do the dirty work.

Nobody's afraid to take a charge against Zion.
I'm afraid to take a charge against Zion.

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AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:49 pm
SDC wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:28 am
I don't like the Barkley comparison for zion.

Zion is finesse and a likely in below average rebounder in the NBA.

Barkley likes to smash into people and do the dirty work.

Nobody's afraid to take a charge against Zion.
Finesse? Did you see some of his nasty power dunks? I assure you guys aren't going to, without any fear, take a charge against him.
dunks are one thing, but does he post up? does he use his body to move people out of the way?

btw, only 4 rebounds today (and 29 points)

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iLLmatic wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:58 pm
SDC wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:28 am
I don't like the Barkley comparison for zion.

Zion is finesse and a likely in below average rebounder in the NBA.

Barkley likes to smash into people and do the dirty work.

Nobody's afraid to take a charge against Zion.
I'm afraid to take a charge against Zion.
zion actually contorts his body to avoid contact, so you dont have to worry.

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SDC wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:23 pm
iLLmatic wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:58 pm
SDC wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:28 am
I don't like the Barkley comparison for zion.

Zion is finesse and a likely in below average rebounder in the NBA.

Barkley likes to smash into people and do the dirty work.

Nobody's afraid to take a charge against Zion.
I'm afraid to take a charge against Zion.
zion actually contorts his body to avoid contact, so you dont have to worry.
Why the hate on Zion? He can't do this...he can't do that..nobody is afraid of him...
Sure, he got 4 re ounds, but he went 12-13 from the floor. That's impressive. They said he wasn't going to get the easy looks in college like he did in hs, but he did anyway. Then they said he wasn't going to get the easy looks in the league like college, but he is any way.
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I like Zion, I've never seen a guy with that size be so graceful and balletic on the court.

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SDC wrote:I like Zion, I've never seen a guy with that size be so graceful and balletic on the court.
Thankfully he can't quite shoot FTs so at least there is a bit of a flaw to his game. Image
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carey wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:51 am
SDC wrote:I like Zion, I've never seen a guy with that size be so graceful and balletic on the court.
Thankfully he can't quite shoot FTs so at least there is a bit of a flaw to his game. Image
I noticed he had a flat shot in college.
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carey wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:51 am
SDC wrote:I like Zion, I've never seen a guy with that size be so graceful and balletic on the court.
Thankfully he can't quite shoot FTs so at least there is a bit of a flaw to his game. Image
His biggest flaw could be his weight. It could end his career in 5 or 6 years.


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I still don't know what kind of player Zion turns into. I can't recall a big with his handles, off the dribble slashing ability, agility, bounce, finesse at 6-7 280? He's built like a tank but handles like a guard. He's never needed a great jumper or post moves because he was always bigger, stronger faster than everyone else and I suspect that will be the case early on in the NBA as well. But what kind of player does that make him if he's basically just an unstoppable slasher but average or below average rebounder and/or defender? I'm not knocking him at all, just genuinely curious how his career goes. Can't think of any player he projects or compares to.

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I think we'll see stuff similar to Blake Griffin's rookie year with Zion. It's not going to take long for the rest of the league to get tired of him trying to dunk on everyone so a lot of players will just foul him. Then we'll see how well he can adjust.

Does he consistently finish through contact well? Can he endure a beating for the whole season? Most importantly, can his shooting improve?
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ShelC wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:01 pm
I still don't know what kind of player Zion turns into. I can't recall a big with his handles, off the dribble slashing ability, agility, bounce, finesse at 6-7 280? He's built like a tank but handles like a guard. He's never needed a great jumper or post moves because he was always bigger, stronger faster than everyone else and I suspect that will be the case early on in the NBA as well. But what kind of player does that make him if he's basically just an unstoppable slasher but average or below average rebounder and/or defender? I'm not knocking him at all, just genuinely curious how his career goes. Can't think of any player he projects or compares to.
I don’t see him being below average as a rebounder and especially not defensively.

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His body seems like if Lebron and Kemp had a kid together. If he can stay healthy, he doesn't even need to improve his shot until he starts to lose his athleticism.

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A better version of Amare?

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Nah, he's got much more handle and off the dribble breakdown ability. He's like a 6-7 270lb ISO guard.

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