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AmareIsGod wrote:
MightyMoog wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:36 pm
Also Meh. We’re going to miss Holmes. Kaminsky is a poor mans Saric. Don’t know why we needed both. We need some toughness and rebounding. Was hoping we’d go after someone like faried or cauley-Stein. Or we should’ve just kept Holmes.
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We really need some defense and athleticism. I already listed my preferences for the vacant big man spot. Frank's a good player, but who's helping Ayton down low?

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Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:32 pm
We really need some defense and athleticism. I already listed my preferences for the vacant big man spot. Frank's a good player, but who's helping Ayton down low?
Aron Baynes.

I really hope he sticks around if only to physically kick Ayton's ass in practice.
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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:35 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:32 pm
We really need some defense and athleticism. I already listed my preferences for the vacant big man spot. Frank's a good player, but who's helping Ayton down low?
Aron Baynes.

I really hope he sticks around if only to physically kick Ayton's ass in practice.
I meant someone who’ll be playing alongside Ayton. I don’t see Ayton and Baynes sharing the court much.

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Anyone sad we didn't retain Holmes and Daniels? They both filled needs on this team.

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Didn't Charlotte get offered a lot to trade out of that draft position but they wanted Frank really bad?

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iLLmatic wrote:Anyone sad we didn't retain Holmes and Daniels? They both filled needs on this team.
A little but they were part of losing culture... Need to clear house a bit.

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AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:43 pm
MightyMoog wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:36 pm
Also Meh. We’re going to miss Holmes. Kaminsky is a poor mans Saric. Don’t know why we needed both. We need some toughness and rebounding. Was hoping we’d go after someone like faried or cauley-Stein. Or we should’ve just kept Holmes.
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Split T wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:47 pm
Meh...I think I would have preferred Bender at the min. I guess he can shoot. I’m not expecting much playing time for him.
He'll probably be the first big off the bench.
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AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:51 pm
Not sure what the beef is. He's much better than Bender. People really have some odd love fest with Bender. He's SUCKED.
To be honest, Kaminsky has sucked for just about all of his career. He has shown flashes here and there, but nothing sustained. I don't prefer Bender though. I don't think there was any way you could go into next season counting on anything from Bender.
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da_suns_fan wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:07 pm
Why didnt they just keep Richaun Holmes?
I applaud for Holmes for being one of the few bright spots of the 2018-19 season, but he was bad defensively, despite his shot-blocking. And as others have said, Baynes is probably an upgrade.
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Shabazz wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:32 pm
We really need some defense and athleticism. I already listed my preferences for the vacant big man spot. Frank's a good player, but who's helping Ayton down low?
Ayton needs to help himself down low. He’s our fucking franchise center. We needed a stretch 4 on the outside. If we need a bruiser for Ayton, just call him a big ass bust right now.

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ShelC wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm
I actually came across Frank's name on a FA list and thought he might be a target for us. I would've preferred more defense, athleticism, shotblocking but like Marty said we're stocking up on shooters and mature guys/pros pros.
Kaminsky is another "NBA ready"experienced college player that has struggled considerably.
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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:16 pm
Agree with it or not, the plan by GM James Jones is clear. We sucked at shooting last season, so he's restocking the roster with guys who can hit 3s and spread the floor. We had too many young rooks who weren't ready to play, so he gets two of the older more mature players in the draft (who can also both shoot 3s). We had horrible ball movement and a stagnant offense, so he grabs a starting PG who can set up all of those shooters.

I don't know whether it will work. But at least it's a plan, and it's based around an actual consistent basketball strategy and not just asset management or perceived individual player value.
Participation award it is, I guess.
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Shabazz wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:56 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:35 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:32 pm
We really need some defense and athleticism. I already listed my preferences for the vacant big man spot. Frank's a good player, but who's helping Ayton down low?
Aron Baynes.

I really hope he sticks around if only to physically kick Ayton's ass in practice.
I meant someone who’ll be playing alongside Ayton. I don’t see Ayton and Baynes sharing the court much.
Exactly. We've loaded up with shooting, which is nice and all, but outside of Ayton and Baynes, there isn't a rebounder to be found on the roster. Zero rim protection too. And a significant lack of athleticism. Those are some of the reasons why I was interested in Jordan Bell.
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Baynes won an Aussie slam dunk competition!
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INFORMER wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:39 pm
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:16 pm
Agree with it or not, the plan by GM James Jones is clear. We sucked at shooting last season, so he's restocking the roster with guys who can hit 3s and spread the floor. We had too many young rooks who weren't ready to play, so he gets two of the older more mature players in the draft (who can also both shoot 3s). We had horrible ball movement and a stagnant offense, so he grabs a starting PG who can set up all of those shooters.

I don't know whether it will work. But at least it's a plan, and it's based around an actual consistent basketball strategy and not just asset management or perceived individual player value.
Participation award it is, I guess.
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INFORMER wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:22 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:47 pm
Meh...I think I would have preferred Bender at the min. I guess he can shoot. I’m not expecting much playing time for him.
He'll probably be the first big off the bench.
I hope not

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INFORMER wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:43 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:56 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:35 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:32 pm
We really need some defense and athleticism. I already listed my preferences for the vacant big man spot. Frank's a good player, but who's helping Ayton down low?
Aron Baynes.

I really hope he sticks around if only to physically kick Ayton's ass in practice.
I meant someone who’ll be playing alongside Ayton. I don’t see Ayton and Baynes sharing the court much.
Exactly. We've loaded up with shooting, which is nice and all, but outside of Ayton and Baynes, there isn't a rebounder to be found on the roster. Zero rim protection too. And a significant lack of athleticism. Those are some of the reasons why I was interested in Jordan Bell.
I definitely agree about athleticism and rim protection in the front court, with the exception of Ayton, and honestly it's like he hardly uses his athleticism. I think the per 36 and per 100 numbers for Kaminsky and Saric are pretty decent(not outstanding or great) in rebounding though. Much better than any of the wings.
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