Suns News: Week 18 4/19-4/25

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I don't totally buy those historical stats about teams with young centers. The game has changed a lot in recent years, especially regarding big men. And this year's Suns team is anything but typical.
He addressed that too. Still doesn't change the fact that no team starting a 22 year old center has ever won an NBA championship.
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Yeah I know he is undersized a bit as a true center, but it would be nice to have a guy that you know could play 25-30 minutes in a game if he had to, and not be a huge negative in the game. We don't have anyone like that right now outside of Ayton. Dario has had some stretches, but not consistently.

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Superbone wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:32 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:56 pm
I don't totally buy those historical stats about teams with young centers. The game has changed a lot in recent years, especially regarding big men. And this year's Suns team is anything but typical.
He addressed that too. Still doesn't change the fact that no team starting a 22 year old center has ever won an NBA championship.
Some of that is just semantics. I mean Tim Duncan was starting and won a championship at 22. But they called him a forward.

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Tim Duncan was playing forward when he won his first ring.
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Fortunately, Game 7 of the Finals will go to overtime, so we will win the championship at 12:00 AM eastern (Nassau) time on July 23, so Ayton will no longer be 22 when we win the title and he lifts the golden Larry O'Brien Trophy on his golden birthday.

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Fortunately, Game 7 of the Finals will go to overtime, so we will win the championship at 12:00 AM eastern (Nassau) time on July 23, so Ayton will no longer be 22 when we win the title and he lifts the golden Larry O'Brien Trophy on his golden birthday.
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We will win the championship with Kaminsky starting at Center and DA starting at PF.
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Split T wrote:
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Our depth is one of our greatest strengths. We have almost nobody on the entire roster about whom I say, "Oof, he's bad, get him out of there and back onto the bench." It's an impressive roster construction, despite being a little thin at backup big-man spots.
Yep, really the only time you could say that was when we were playing Damian Jones...I don’t count Jalen or Ty-Shon because they only play garbage minutes anyways.
Eh. I think there have been too many times you could say that about Carter and Frank.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:56 pm
I don't totally buy those historical stats about teams with young centers. The game has changed a lot in recent years, especially regarding big men. And this year's Suns team is anything but typical.
Thank you. I think there are a whole lot of apples and oranges comparisons within that data set AND when comparing that data to today's game/this Suns team.

I think those numbers are as valuable as those stupid "only player to average 15/5/5" data sets that paired Eric Bledsoe and LeBron James during Bledsoe's regrettable tenure here.

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Indy wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:38 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:32 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:56 pm
I don't totally buy those historical stats about teams with young centers. The game has changed a lot in recent years, especially regarding big men. And this year's Suns team is anything but typical.
He addressed that too. Still doesn't change the fact that no team starting a 22 year old center has ever won an NBA championship.
Some of that is just semantics. I mean Tim Duncan was starting and won a championship at 22. But they called him a forward.
But that was next to David Robinson. Duncan was legitimately playing the 4 then. What I don't count are the years where they would play Rasho Nesterovic or Francisco Elson for 16 minutes at the 5 and still try to claim Duncan was a 4.

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INFORMER wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:19 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:38 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:32 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:56 pm
I don't totally buy those historical stats about teams with young centers. The game has changed a lot in recent years, especially regarding big men. And this year's Suns team is anything but typical.
He addressed that too. Still doesn't change the fact that no team starting a 22 year old center has ever won an NBA championship.
Some of that is just semantics. I mean Tim Duncan was starting and won a championship at 22. But they called him a forward.
But that was next to David Robinson. Duncan was legitimately playing the 4 then. What I don't count are the years where they would play Rasho Nesterovic or Francisco Elson for 16 minutes at the 5 and still try to claim Duncan was a 4.
Maybe I need to go back and watch some games from those Finals, but it in my mind they were both playing the 5.

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Yeah, Duncan certainly saw time there, but Robinson was protecting him.

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