Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games

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Superbone wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:04 am
Indy wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:02 am
Furlanfufi wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:32 am
da_suns_fan wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:41 am
Paul is one of the last players still around from his draft class. Not only is he still playing, he's gonna get ANOTHER huge contract.

Remember when it was actually a debate between Chris Paul and Deron Williams?
I always think about that. Paul probably would thrive under Jerry Sloan. Why they chose Williams is a mistery to me.
Maybe, much like Book, he made it clear he didn't want to play for Utah.
Book made it clear he didn't want to play for Utah? That's news to me.
Paul at the time made no such claims.

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Furlanfufi wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:16 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:04 am
Indy wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:02 am
Furlanfufi wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:32 am
da_suns_fan wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:41 am
Paul is one of the last players still around from his draft class. Not only is he still playing, he's gonna get ANOTHER huge contract.

Remember when it was actually a debate between Chris Paul and Deron Williams?
I always think about that. Paul probably would thrive under Jerry Sloan. Why they chose Williams is a mistery to me.
Maybe, much like Book, he made it clear he didn't want to play for Utah.
Book made it clear he didn't want to play for Utah? That's news to me.
Paul at the time made no such claims.
I don't recall either playing saying anything regarding wanting or not wanting to play for Utah.
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I don't think it was public at the time.


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"Suns brass imagined Booker draining kickouts from Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight's penetration."

Even when they got it right, they were still so wrong. And they mislabeled him a shooter rather than a scorer. They thought he'd be more Klay.

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Indy wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:14 am
I don't think it was public at the time.

Dude! How long have you been holding out on us?! That was a fascinating read. I had never heard of this book before. Might have to read it.
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ShelC wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:36 am
"Suns brass imagined Booker draining kickouts from Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight's penetration."

Even when they got it right, they were still so wrong. And they mislabeled him a shooter rather than a scorer. They thought he'd be more Klay.
Well, they did say, "Booker also flashed the potential to attack gaps and finish at the rim as well. Obviously his shooting was the main piece, but the rest of the package was also really appealing, Connelly says."
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Nice to know Ryan loved book's package.

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ShelC wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:36 am
"Suns brass imagined Booker draining kickouts from Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight's penetration."

Even when they got it right, they were still so wrong. And they mislabeled him a shooter rather than a scorer. They thought he'd be more Klay.
I could have SWORN the Suns were trying to move up to draft Kaminsky.

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Here's Dan Bickley saying the Suns failed to land a "big fish" the day after drafting Booker:

https://www.azcentral.com/get-access/?r ... 9315125%2F

The draft is such a crap shoot. I'll never believe the teams that got it "right" had any clue what they were doing.

In 2013, Milwaukee got Giannis with the fifteenth pick. They must REALLY know what they were doing, right?

They followed it up in 2014 by selecting...Jabari Parker with SECOND overall pick. He's still in the league but on his sixth team.

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da_suns_fan wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:49 pm
ShelC wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:36 am
"Suns brass imagined Booker draining kickouts from Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight's penetration."

Even when they got it right, they were still so wrong. And they mislabeled him a shooter rather than a scorer. They thought he'd be more Klay.
I could have SWORN the Suns were trying to move up to draft Kaminsky.
Porzingis as I recall.

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Cap wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:06 pm
da_suns_fan wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:49 pm
ShelC wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:36 am
"Suns brass imagined Booker draining kickouts from Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight's penetration."

Even when they got it right, they were still so wrong. And they mislabeled him a shooter rather than a scorer. They thought he'd be more Klay.
I could have SWORN the Suns were trying to move up to draft Kaminsky.
Porzingis as I recall.
I KNEW it was Kaminsky:


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They didnt even really want Booker:

https://valleyofthesuns.com/2015/06/25/ ... in-booker/

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I don't think that piece said Book was their primary target throughout the draft. Just that when it got to them at 13, he was their best option left. I am sure they tried to move up or hoped someone else fell to them.

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Indy wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:34 pm
I don't think that piece said Book was their primary target throughout the draft. Just that when it got to them at 13, he was their best option left. I am sure they tried to move up or hoped someone else fell to them.
Correct. Wasnt their top choice, they tried to trade up to get someone else but couldnt get it done. Thought Book was the best of the lot left.

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Strange reviews about that book on Amazon. Almost all are over the top positive and then this one very negative review:

1.0 out of 5 stars garbage by a known fraud
Reviewed in the United States on May 11, 2021
if you want to read something by a guy who "breaks stories" by making up lies, instantly gets called out on the lies by all the sources with the most direct knowledge on the subject, then backpedals by saying "that's just what my other sources told me" as if that is an excuse for reckless libel, slander and defamation... then you're probably the kind of person who should own a book entitled "built to LOSE"
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Trey Lyles!
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da_suns_fan wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:13 pm
Cap wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:06 pm
da_suns_fan wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:49 pm
ShelC wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:36 am
"Suns brass imagined Booker draining kickouts from Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight's penetration."

Even when they got it right, they were still so wrong. And they mislabeled him a shooter rather than a scorer. They thought he'd be more Klay.
I could have SWORN the Suns were trying to move up to draft Kaminsky.
Porzingis as I recall.
I KNEW it was Kaminsky:

Well, we got both! LOL

If we end up being champions with both of them, can we call McD tenure a success? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Furlanfufi wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:49 pm
da_suns_fan wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:13 pm
Cap wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:06 pm
da_suns_fan wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:49 pm
ShelC wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:36 am
"Suns brass imagined Booker draining kickouts from Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight's penetration."

Even when they got it right, they were still so wrong. And they mislabeled him a shooter rather than a scorer. They thought he'd be more Klay.
I could have SWORN the Suns were trying to move up to draft Kaminsky.
Porzingis as I recall.
I KNEW it was Kaminsky:

Well, we got both! LOL

If we end up being champions with both of them, can we call McD tenure a success? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well according the Reggie Miller he basically built this team, then let James Jones take over a bit.

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virtual9mm wrote:
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I am starting to worry that we are getting too complacent as fans and wonder if the same is true of the players, too.
You mean you’re worried about this?
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Bucks handling Brooklyn early.
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