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Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:13 pm
by Indy

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:17 pm
by ShelC
Good number there for him, another young part of the core locked in.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:18 pm
by JeremyG
Utterly disgusting. Why not give the $43 million to Ayton and sign a vet min. player instead? Spend the same amount of money and avoid disaster!

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:19 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Wow, it's almost like James Jones knows how to sign guys to good contracts.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:20 pm
by Indy
It is telling that there isn't a single contract announced this summer that I would say we overpaid on.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:25 pm
by JeremyG
$207M - $172M = $35M

If we were willing to give Ayton the $172M, then we could have afforded even a supermax for Ayton if we hadn't extended Shamet for $43M.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:34 pm
by Split T
We must feel pretty good about Shamet. It’s not a crazy amount, but it’s maybe a bit more than I would have spent.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:36 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:18 pm
Utterly disgusting. Why not give the $43 million to Ayton and sign a vet min. player instead? Spend the same amount of money and avoid disaster!
We clearly just don’t trust Ayton as a max player yet. He can get that deal if he plays up to it this season.

Though I will say, committing this money to Shamet does make me think we might choose to move on from Ayton if we can find a reasonable replacement.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:37 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:36 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:18 pm
Utterly disgusting. Why not give the $43 million to Ayton and sign a vet min. player instead? Spend the same amount of money and avoid disaster!
We clearly just don’t trust Ayton as a max player yet. He can get that deal if he plays up to it this season.

Though I will say, committing this money to Shamet does make me think we might choose to move on from Ayton if we can find a reasonable replacement.
I think you're right. I bet they only gave Shamet the money once they couldn't make a deal with Ayton, because they are now planning on letting him go.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:39 pm
by JeremyG

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:39 pm
by Indy
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:37 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:36 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:18 pm
Utterly disgusting. Why not give the $43 million to Ayton and sign a vet min. player instead? Spend the same amount of money and avoid disaster!
We clearly just don’t trust Ayton as a max player yet. He can get that deal if he plays up to it this season.

Though I will say, committing this money to Shamet does make me think we might choose to move on from Ayton if we can find a reasonable replacement.
I think you're right. I bet they only gave Shamet the money once they couldn't make a deal with Ayton, because they are now planning on letting him go.
there is no way in hell they are letting him go. They may trade him, but they are not letting him go for nothing.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:43 pm
by Split T
Ya by no means did I mean just let him walk, but S&T him next summer for a cheaper piece that fits what we want to do. Truth be told, Ayton has never been a great offensive fit in Monty’s system.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:44 pm
by Indy
So how long until someone does a gif or meme of that block Giannis had on Ayton but with a bag of 207M instead of the ball?

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:46 pm
by Split T
Also can I just say how crazy good does that Cam Payne deal look now? Shamet got twice as much as Payne.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:07 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I don't know if he's twice as better, but Shamet is better than Payne.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:09 pm
by ShelC
Shamet might make Payne expendable by the end of the season. Hope not, but it could happen.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:12 pm
by JeremyG
Indy wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:39 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:37 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:36 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:18 pm
Utterly disgusting. Why not give the $43 million to Ayton and sign a vet min. player instead? Spend the same amount of money and avoid disaster!
We clearly just don’t trust Ayton as a max player yet. He can get that deal if he plays up to it this season.

Though I will say, committing this money to Shamet does make me think we might choose to move on from Ayton if we can find a reasonable replacement.
I think you're right. I bet they only gave Shamet the money once they couldn't make a deal with Ayton, because they are now planning on letting him go.
there is no way in hell they are letting him go. They may trade him, but they are not letting him go for nothing.
I'm not interested in letting Ayton go for S&T garbage.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:16 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:12 pm
Indy wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:39 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:37 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:36 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:18 pm
Utterly disgusting. Why not give the $43 million to Ayton and sign a vet min. player instead? Spend the same amount of money and avoid disaster!
We clearly just don’t trust Ayton as a max player yet. He can get that deal if he plays up to it this season.

Though I will say, committing this money to Shamet does make me think we might choose to move on from Ayton if we can find a reasonable replacement.
I think you're right. I bet they only gave Shamet the money once they couldn't make a deal with Ayton, because they are now planning on letting him go.
there is no way in hell they are letting him go. They may trade him, but they are not letting him go for nothing.
I'm not interested in letting Ayton go for S&T garbage.
No one is, not even James Jones, so don't worry.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:20 pm
by JeremyG
Aztec Sunsfan wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:16 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:12 pm
Indy wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:39 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:37 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:36 pm


We clearly just don’t trust Ayton as a max player yet. He can get that deal if he plays up to it this season.

Though I will say, committing this money to Shamet does make me think we might choose to move on from Ayton if we can find a reasonable replacement.
I think you're right. I bet they only gave Shamet the money once they couldn't make a deal with Ayton, because they are now planning on letting him go.
there is no way in hell they are letting him go. They may trade him, but they are not letting him go for nothing.
I'm not interested in letting Ayton go for S&T garbage.
No one is, not even James Jones, so don't worry.
If he wants out, Jones won't make him stay.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:21 pm
by Split T
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:07 pm
I don't know if he's twice as better, but Shamet is better than Payne.
Well I hope so. I’ll have to wait and see on that.