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Re: Suns (37-9) @ Jazz (30-18) , Wed 01/26/2022

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:41 pm
by Split T
Ya Book vs Paul is a toss-up. Paul is the consistent stabilizing force that is the number one reason for our team culture(amongst players). He’s our floor raiser. Book is our ceiling raiser. He’s the one who makes us a title contender. He’s less consistent and prone to dry spells, but he puts more fear into the defense than Paul.

I think we’d probably have a better record if we lost Booker and kept Paul, but we’d be less dangerous as a playoff opponent if that makes sense. So trade out Book for a league average SG and we’re probably a 4 seed that could win 1 series. Trade CP3 out for a league average PG and we’re probably a 6 seed that could lose in 5 in the first round or go to the conference championship game.

Re: Suns (37-9) @ Jazz (30-18) , Wed 01/26/2022

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:16 pm
by The Bobster
I think what Booker brings to the team is a little more replaceable than what Paul brings to the team. Star players with leadership qualities like Paul has are pretty rare. I don't know if there's another star player in the league who does that as well.

Re: Suns (37-9) @ Jazz (30-18) , Wed 01/26/2022

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:21 pm
by Split T
What’s a better team?

Conley/Booker/Bridges/Crowder/Ayton or

Paul/Bane/Bridges/Crowder/Ayton

Re: Suns (37-9) @ Jazz (30-18) , Wed 01/26/2022

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:33 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I really like Bane and I think there's a chance he gets to Booker's level even if he's behind him on the development curve, but I'd probably go with the Conley/Booker combo.

The part of this hypothetical that I find difficult is evaluating Booker without Chris Paul's influence on his development. Booker has been so much more poised and methodical since Paul joined the Suns.

Re: Suns (37-9) @ Jazz (30-18) , Wed 01/26/2022

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:56 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:33 pm
I really like Bane and I think there's a chance he gets to Booker's level even if he's behind him on the development curve, but I'd probably go with the Conley/Booker combo.

The part of this hypothetical that I find difficult is evaluating Booker without Chris Paul's influence on his development. Booker has been so much more poised and methodical since Paul joined the Suns.
Completely agreed. Ayton as well.

Since last season, media started talking about Paul as an Ayton whisperer, but he also did wonders on Booker, showing him how to keep poise and change his kobe-ball style and trust his teammates (granted, Booker was never surrounded by this depth of talent, but still). They are a two headed monster backcourt now, and opposing defenses don’t know who’s going to hammer them, either by shooting or by setting up teammates.

Re: Suns (37-9) @ Jazz (30-18) , Wed 01/26/2022

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:02 pm
by Split T
There are some things about Booker that have improved with Paul, but I still feel like his '19-'20 season might be his best overall. Rubio also helped him greatly and that was easily his best efficiency season. That plus the added playmaking responsibility pushes his numbers up a bit.

Re: Suns (37-9) @ Jazz (30-18) , Wed 01/26/2022

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:01 pm
by JeremyG
For some reason, though, I feel like Booker is the way more likely Finals MVP candidate than Paul.

Re: Suns (37-9) @ Jazz (30-18) , Wed 01/26/2022

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:48 pm
by Indy
JeremyG wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:01 pm
For some reason, though, I feel like Booker is the way more likely Finals MVP candidate than Paul.
I think Booker would be more likely to be most impactful. But I just don't see the voters not giving it to CP3 unless he wasn't his usual self.

Re: Suns (37-9) @ Jazz (30-18) , Wed 01/26/2022

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:30 am
by Split T
Indy wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:48 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:01 pm
For some reason, though, I feel like Booker is the way more likely Finals MVP candidate than Paul.
I think Booker would be more likely to be most impactful. But I just don't see the voters not giving it to CP3 unless he wasn't his usual self.
Probably have to be like last years finals…Booker was outplaying Paul and had we snuck out wins in 2 of those final 4, I think Booker would have gotten it.

Re: Suns (37-9) @ Jazz (30-18) , Wed 01/26/2022

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:29 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:30 am
Indy wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:48 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:01 pm
For some reason, though, I feel like Booker is the way more likely Finals MVP candidate than Paul.
I think Booker would be more likely to be most impactful. But I just don't see the voters not giving it to CP3 unless he wasn't his usual self.
Probably have to be like last years finals…Booker was outplaying Paul and had we snuck out wins in 2 of those final 4, I think Booker would have gotten it.
Yeah, that's probably what I was going off of. Booker had the 40-point games in close losses in Games 4 & 5. If we win those games, he would be the Finals MVP.