Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
Last 2 Week's Games
@ Cavs Loss 90-88
vs Heat Loss 96-104
vs Cavs Loss 98-112
@ Warriors WIN! 113-125
@ Nuggets Loss 126-97
@ Wolves Loss 121-116
@ Grizzlies Loss 136-106
This Week's Games
Thu Jan 19 vs Nets, 8:00PM MST, TNT / Bally Sports AZ
San Jan 21 vs Pacers, 7:00PM MST, Bally Sports AZ
Sun Jan 22 vs Grizzlies, 6:00PM MST, Bally Sports AZ
Suns News
CBS SportsLine: Trade Rumors, Suns interested in Fred VanVleet?
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba- ... n-collins/
SI.com: Who the Suns Should / Shouldn't Move Ahead of the Trade Deadline
https://www.si.com/nba/suns/analysis/wh ... e-deadline
Bright Side: Know When to Fold 'Em
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2023 ... draft-tank
@ Cavs Loss 90-88
vs Heat Loss 96-104
vs Cavs Loss 98-112
@ Warriors WIN! 113-125
@ Nuggets Loss 126-97
@ Wolves Loss 121-116
@ Grizzlies Loss 136-106
This Week's Games
Thu Jan 19 vs Nets, 8:00PM MST, TNT / Bally Sports AZ
San Jan 21 vs Pacers, 7:00PM MST, Bally Sports AZ
Sun Jan 22 vs Grizzlies, 6:00PM MST, Bally Sports AZ
Suns News
CBS SportsLine: Trade Rumors, Suns interested in Fred VanVleet?
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba- ... n-collins/
SI.com: Who the Suns Should / Shouldn't Move Ahead of the Trade Deadline
https://www.si.com/nba/suns/analysis/wh ... e-deadline
Bright Side: Know When to Fold 'Em
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2023 ... draft-tank
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
Would you guys trade DA, Cam J and 4 1sts for FVV and Siakam?
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
4 firsts? Nah. FVV isn't that good. Siakam is obviously the prize but that just seems steep. Dude is shooting 38% from the field this year.
Jones and Vogel gotta go.
Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
4 firsts is way too much for that package. You'd have to throw in Anouby with all that. FVV isn't having a great year. Plus can walk this summer. About the only upcoming FA I'd have interest in a trade would be Kuzma.
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
I think 1st round picks have become undervalued. Teams are adding three, four, even five 1sts in a trade just to get one player. That kind of deal seems insane to me. You're crippling your franchise's future for like a decade. I think most of these teams making trades like that would undo the trade if they had a chance. I just don't see the Toronto assets as worth giving up that many picks for.
FVV in particular isn't worth such a price. He's having a legitimately bad year. I might even prefer Cam Payne and DWJ over FVV right now given the salary and numbers.
FVV in particular isn't worth such a price. He's having a legitimately bad year. I might even prefer Cam Payne and DWJ over FVV right now given the salary and numbers.
Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
The Suns especially should not be in the market for just handing out firsts, this team NEEDS young cheap talent, otherwise you get stuck with a bunch of Gleague bench guys on the minimum.
Jones and Vogel gotta go.
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
To me, that's a valid reason for selling. If you can move Ayton for 4 1sts, I think you have to do it, consequences be damned.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:14 pmI think 1st round picks have become undervalued. Teams are adding three, four, even five 1sts in a trade just to get one player. That kind of deal seems insane to me. You're crippling your franchise's future for like a decade. I think most of these teams making trades like that would undo the trade if they had a chance. I just don't see the Toronto assets as worth giving up that many picks for.
FVV in particular isn't worth such a price. He's having a legitimately bad year. I might even prefer Cam Payne and DWJ over FVV right now given the salary and numbers.
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
No one is giving 4 first round picks for Deandre Ayton.
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
The way he's playing lately, we may have to give up some firsts to unload him. (I kid, Jeremy, I kid!)Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:14 pmNo one is giving 4 first round picks for Deandre Ayton.
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
That's why I'm probably not a seller.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:14 pmNo one is giving 4 first round picks for Deandre Ayton.
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
You're driving a hard bargain there..virtual9mm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:34 pmThat's why I'm probably not a seller.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:14 pmNo one is giving 4 first round picks for Deandre Ayton.
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
I'll just repost myself from two months ago..
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:30 amI dream of James Jones trading Paul (Charlotte?) to clear room for a Fred VanVleet free agent offer during the summer.
The worrying thing with Ayton is that he's already floating and he technically can't be traded right now. How's he going to play when his name is in trade rumors this winter?
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
You guys are crazy, I’d easily give up 4 1sts for Siakam and FVV
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
We could go down in history as the first franchise to waste 2 first overall picks on underwhelming centersvirtual9mm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:35 pmThis is when I start considering a break from the site haha
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Re: Suns News: Week 14 (1/16 - 1/22)
How many PGs are clearly a level better?
Steph Curry
Luka Doncic
Damian Lillard
Kyrie Irving
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Ja Morant
I think he's firmly in this group..
DeAaron Fox $30.3M
Jalen Brunson $27.7M
Tyrese Haliburton
Jamal Murray $31.6M
Trae Young
LaMelo Ball
Jrue Holiday $33.6M
Seems to me like his next contract will be right at market value.
Steph Curry
Luka Doncic
Damian Lillard
Kyrie Irving
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Ja Morant
I think he's firmly in this group..
DeAaron Fox $30.3M
Jalen Brunson $27.7M
Tyrese Haliburton
Jamal Murray $31.6M
Trae Young
LaMelo Ball
Jrue Holiday $33.6M
Seems to me like his next contract will be right at market value.
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