Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:26 am
Lardy Bird.
He reminded me of a big boy Doncic. Plays at his own pace.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:41 pm
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:37 pm
Here’s what I think the suns should do with their pick…I won’t get into prospects but if someon you love is available just take him…in all other scenarios I think we should trade the pick for a future 1st.
Say we end up at 18, trade down with someone in the 20’s for a couple future 2nds. Then send the pick in the 20s to someone for a 2025 1st. You get a couple 2nd round picks and then you retain the draft pick as a tradable asset.
If we draft a player in 2024, they lose basically all their value to us on the trade market. We can’t aggregate them salary wise and their contract will be so small that we can’t really acquire anyone of value for them. The 2025 pick can be added to a player for a trade. Would leave us with 2 tradable 1sts next season. As it stands now, we will only have 1 tradable 1st after the 2024 draft…we could technically trade 2 1sts on draft night.
Say we end up at 18, trade down with someone in the 20’s for a couple future 2nds. Then send the pick in the 20s to someone for a 2025 1st. You get a couple 2nd round picks and then you retain the draft pick as a tradable asset.
If we draft a player in 2024, they lose basically all their value to us on the trade market. We can’t aggregate them salary wise and their contract will be so small that we can’t really acquire anyone of value for them. The 2025 pick can be added to a player for a trade. Would leave us with 2 tradable 1sts next season. As it stands now, we will only have 1 tradable 1st after the 2024 draft…we could technically trade 2 1sts on draft night.
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:19 pm
Agreed ..they should give him a shot and try to throw some developmental efforts at him...Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:20 pmThis is why I’d support a Killian Hayes signing. Although, he’s probably looking for more of an opportunity.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:57 pmThey need to start accumulating developmental players to balance out the cap assets. There's also a G-League team coming soon, right?
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:48 pm
I like Hayes as a reserve. Good D and ball skills. Shot needs work, but there are plenty of shooters on the team.Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:19 pmAgreed ..they should give him a shot and try to throw some developmental efforts at him...Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:20 pmThis is why I’d support a Killian Hayes signing. Although, he’s probably looking for more of an opportunity.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:57 pmThey need to start accumulating developmental players to balance out the cap assets. There's also a G-League team coming soon, right?
I'd rather have Hayes as the backup point than Okogie...
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:40 am
I think this is a reasonable path forward but consider this: The draft can be effective in bringing in new salary above the vet minimum. The 19th pick in 2023 was Bradin Podziemski, who gets paid $3,352,404 in 2023/4. His base salary escalates to $3,519,960, $3,687,960 and $5,679,459 in subsequent years after which he becomes an RFA where he can really get paid. Without the pick, you can't add the salary slot.Split T wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:37 pmHere’s what I think the suns should do with their pick…I won’t get into prospects but if someon you love is available just take him…in all other scenarios I think we should trade the pick for a future 1st.
Say we end up at 18, trade down with someone in the 20’s for a couple future 2nds. Then send the pick in the 20s to someone for a 2025 1st. You get a couple 2nd round picks and then you retain the draft pick as a tradable asset.
If we draft a player in 2024, they lose basically all their value to us on the trade market. We can’t aggregate them salary wise and their contract will be so small that we can’t really acquire anyone of value for them. The 2025 pick can be added to a player for a trade. Would leave us with 2 tradable 1sts next season. As it stands now, we will only have 1 tradable 1st after the 2024 draft…we could technically trade 2 1sts on draft night.
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:53 am
Yes I think that’s a way to go…you do have to wait for their development though. I don’t think it’s a bad route, but the team may prefer the trade asset to the cost controlled player.
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:28 am
Yea it just comes down what the team wants to do. Personally, I don't want the team to forget about developing young players. I would have rather had some rookies with upside than the vet min trash they ended up with at the beginning of the season. Also, its nay impossible to retain a vet min player that has a breakout year. Rookie deals don't have that limitation.
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:33 am
Ya I’d be on board for developing a young guy as well…not sure James Jones and others want to do that though. Will be interesting to see what direction we go
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:55 am
I'm still bummed about Camara. It would have been interesting to see if he would have gotten regular playing time here.
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:38 am
KOC gassing up Eddy as a potential lotto pick. Just wouldn’t surprise me if the Suns drafted him. I’m already prepared for it.
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:40 pm
Where's Bronny?! Is Lebron really going to wait another season to play with him?
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:53 pm
I liked the comparison for Ron Holland: theoretical Josh Jackson 
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:19 pm
Just say Josh Jackson…Holland could definitely end up a bust too haha
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:20 pm
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:15 pm
To this end, do you want us to draft LeBron James jr?
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:20 pm
I'd rather eat a shoe.Charlie Smithy! wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:15 pmTo this end, do you want us to draft LeBron James jr?
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:04 pm
We can arrange that.TOO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:20 pmI'd rather eat a shoe.Charlie Smithy! wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:15 pmTo this end, do you want us to draft LeBron James jr?
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:18 pm
Re: 2024 NBA Draft
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:49 pm
I don’t know but it will improve your sole.