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I think Booker is the only lock right now. Mikal would have to come back and play a few more years and get in in that fan favorite category. I wouldn’t rule out KD as he will likely make an All-NBA team or 2 while here. Beal is unlikely but if he somehow returns to being a healthy player and stays, he’s young enough and good enough to get there…would probably need to stay 5 years and make an all-star team or 2(or win a title here). Probably getting ahead of ourselves with Beal though, he’s very unlikely.The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:12 pmIf you look around the NBA I think retured numbers fall in four different catagories.
First is the "MVP Type" - Players who played at the level where they were considered for the award or perhaps even won one - Suns: Charles Barkley, Steve Nash
Then the "All-NBA Type" - They were perennially named All-NBA and were probably Hall of Fame players over the course of their careers - Suns: Connie Hawkins, Kevin Johnson, Paul Westphal
The largest goup is "All-Star Type" - Especially when a player spends the bulk of his prime with your team. Some of them are bordeline Hall of Famers - Suns: Tom Chambers, Walter Davis, Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire
And then there's also the "Very Good Fan Favorite Type" - Ocassional All-Stars, not Hall of Fame players or even AllpNBA players, but fan favorites who played their prime years with a team - Suns: Alvan Adams, Dan Majerle, Dick Van Arsdale
Which leads me wonder who else will get their numbers retired and why. Booker will eventually, he falls in the "All-NBA Type." Chris Paul would have too if he had stayed longer. And Jason Kidd if he hadn't had the messy seperation from the team. And Dennis Johnson is he had been here more than a couple years.
Larry Nance would fall into the "All-Star Type." I think he was underrated by the national media, and even the local media and fans when he played here. So would Charlie Scott, who went unappreciated because the Suns just weren't that good when he was here.
Jeff Hornacek would fall in the "Very Good Fan Favorite Type" So would Paul SIlas. Leandro Barbosa might be some condideration, but he falls a little short.
Everybody else either didn't play here long enough (Gail Goodrich and probably Chris Paul) or played here on the downside of their career and don;t really warrant it (Penny Hardaway, Shaq, Vince Carter)
Yeah, I don't think any past players are still in the running. Like you said, Book is a lock.Split T wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:39 pmI think Booker is the only lock right now. Mikal would have to come back and play a few more years and get in in that fan favorite category. I wouldn’t rule out KD as he will likely make an All-NBA team or 2 while here. Beal is unlikely but if he somehow returns to being a healthy player and stays, he’s young enough and good enough to get there…would probably need to stay 5 years and make an all-star team or 2(or win a title here). Probably getting ahead of ourselves with Beal though, he’s very unlikely.The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:12 pmIf you look around the NBA I think retured numbers fall in four different catagories.
First is the "MVP Type" - Players who played at the level where they were considered for the award or perhaps even won one - Suns: Charles Barkley, Steve Nash
Then the "All-NBA Type" - They were perennially named All-NBA and were probably Hall of Fame players over the course of their careers - Suns: Connie Hawkins, Kevin Johnson, Paul Westphal
The largest goup is "All-Star Type" - Especially when a player spends the bulk of his prime with your team. Some of them are bordeline Hall of Famers - Suns: Tom Chambers, Walter Davis, Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire
And then there's also the "Very Good Fan Favorite Type" - Ocassional All-Stars, not Hall of Fame players or even AllpNBA players, but fan favorites who played their prime years with a team - Suns: Alvan Adams, Dan Majerle, Dick Van Arsdale
Which leads me wonder who else will get their numbers retired and why. Booker will eventually, he falls in the "All-NBA Type." Chris Paul would have too if he had stayed longer. And Jason Kidd if he hadn't had the messy seperation from the team. And Dennis Johnson is he had been here more than a couple years.
Larry Nance would fall into the "All-Star Type." I think he was underrated by the national media, and even the local media and fans when he played here. So would Charlie Scott, who went unappreciated because the Suns just weren't that good when he was here.
Jeff Hornacek would fall in the "Very Good Fan Favorite Type" So would Paul SIlas. Leandro Barbosa might be some condideration, but he falls a little short.
Everybody else either didn't play here long enough (Gail Goodrich and probably Chris Paul) or played here on the downside of their career and don;t really warrant it (Penny Hardaway, Shaq, Vince Carter)
Booker, and then also pehaps Durant, depending on how long he stays here. Kidd is the only other player who would warrant serious consideration, but the messy split kind of killed that.Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:42 pmYeah, I don't think any past players are still in the running. Like you said, Book is a lock.Split T wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:39 pmI think Booker is the only lock right now. Mikal would have to come back and play a few more years and get in in that fan favorite category. I wouldn’t rule out KD as he will likely make an All-NBA team or 2 while here. Beal is unlikely but if he somehow returns to being a healthy player and stays, he’s young enough and good enough to get there…would probably need to stay 5 years and make an all-star team or 2(or win a title here). Probably getting ahead of ourselves with Beal though, he’s very unlikely.The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:12 pmIf you look around the NBA I think retured numbers fall in four different catagories.
First is the "MVP Type" - Players who played at the level where they were considered for the award or perhaps even won one - Suns: Charles Barkley, Steve Nash
Then the "All-NBA Type" - They were perennially named All-NBA and were probably Hall of Fame players over the course of their careers - Suns: Connie Hawkins, Kevin Johnson, Paul Westphal
The largest goup is "All-Star Type" - Especially when a player spends the bulk of his prime with your team. Some of them are bordeline Hall of Famers - Suns: Tom Chambers, Walter Davis, Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire
And then there's also the "Very Good Fan Favorite Type" - Ocassional All-Stars, not Hall of Fame players or even AllpNBA players, but fan favorites who played their prime years with a team - Suns: Alvan Adams, Dan Majerle, Dick Van Arsdale
Which leads me wonder who else will get their numbers retired and why. Booker will eventually, he falls in the "All-NBA Type." Chris Paul would have too if he had stayed longer. And Jason Kidd if he hadn't had the messy seperation from the team. And Dennis Johnson is he had been here more than a couple years.
Larry Nance would fall into the "All-Star Type." I think he was underrated by the national media, and even the local media and fans when he played here. So would Charlie Scott, who went unappreciated because the Suns just weren't that good when he was here.
Jeff Hornacek would fall in the "Very Good Fan Favorite Type" So would Paul SIlas. Leandro Barbosa might be some condideration, but he falls a little short.
Everybody else either didn't play here long enough (Gail Goodrich and probably Chris Paul) or played here on the downside of their career and don;t really warrant it (Penny Hardaway, Shaq, Vince Carter)
Do you know if Jerry has ever come out and said anything regarding Robert Sarver, or selling the team to him in the first place?The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:44 pmD'Antoni is a strong possibility, and certainly deserving.
Still, it takes a while to get all the Sarver stink scrubbed off the franchise and correct all the things he ignored.