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Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:58 pm
by ShelC
I think there is something to the fact that Grayson, as good as he's been, has been on 3 teams already. I think he's seen as a nice productive player but maybe more of a luxury/expendable type of guy. I do think if you're staggering the Big 3 and he's coming in as a sub, it keeps him in that secondary role next to a Beal or Book and he can still get quality looks.
Herb Jones is kind of that prototype long 3-D wing but he won't be available so maybe we can draft a player like that? Thybulle I don't trust as a shooter.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:13 pm
by Wally_West
Remember when Booker said “Respectfully, I don’t know how teams are going to guards us” and now we’re most likely gonna miss the playoffs. Lmao fucking joke. At least I got the DBacks.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:39 pm
by TOO
Wally_West wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:13 pm
Remember when Booker said “Respectfully, I don’t know how teams are going to guards us” and now we’re most likely gonna miss the playoffs. Lmao fucking joke. At least I got the DBacks.
I like the one video where he was telling Ayton to bring the effort every night. That one seems funny now.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:22 am
by Mori Chu
Bright Side: It's time to accept who the Phoenix Suns are this season
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:25 am
by Split T
Nah…we made these moves to be a title contender. We shouldn’t accept anything less than that…especially not a play-in loser.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:25 am
by Split T
Something to keep an eye on.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:49 am
by specialsauce
TOO wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:39 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:13 pm
Remember when Booker said “Respectfully, I don’t know how teams are going to guards us” and now we’re most likely gonna miss the playoffs. Lmao fucking joke. At least I got the DBacks.
I like the one video where he was telling Ayton to bring the effort every night. That one seems funny now.
It does. I hope he's challenging his current teammates and himself
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:36 am
by O_Gardino
Couple of things:
- 18M sounds like too much for Grayson. He has been good on the court, but he's not creator or a stopper. He's also not a leader or a culture maker. But I would still rather spend 18M of Ishbai's money on Grayson than spend 5M of Ishbia's money on someone worse.
- Can't blame KD for not giving the leadership we want. He has never been that guy.
- How smart are our players, really? I had thought we had a high IQ team, but I don't see the adjustments or smart basketball I want from these guys. Hard to tell if Vogul is holding the team back or if they just aren't as versatile as I expected.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:48 am
by ShelC
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:49 am
TOO wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:39 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:13 pm
Remember when Booker said “Respectfully, I don’t know how teams are going to guards us” and now we’re most likely gonna miss the playoffs. Lmao fucking joke. At least I got the DBacks.
I like the one video where he was telling Ayton to bring the effort every night. That one seems funny now.
It does. I hope he's challenging his current teammates and himself
I think it was a lot easier for Book to get on guys like DA, Mikal, Cam, etc because he was the clear alpha and go-to guy on the team. This year, even tho it's still technically his team, he might not feel comfortable calling out or getting on KD or Beal, being a younger/less accomplished player. They're on his level and older veterans, how much can he really push those guys?
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:13 am
by Superbone
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:25 am
Nah…we made these moves to be a title contender. We shouldn’t accept anything less than that…especially not a play-in loser.
Accept it nor not. It is what it is.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:18 am
by Split T
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:13 am
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:25 am
Nah…we made these moves to be a title contender. We shouldn’t accept anything less than that…especially not a play-in loser.
Accept it nor not. It is what it is.
True, I’m just not going to agree that it’s acceptable. We are way too talented of a team to just be ok with being what we are. Unacceptable to me.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:21 am
by Superbone
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:18 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:13 am
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:25 am
Nah…we made these moves to be a title contender. We shouldn’t accept anything less than that…especially not a play-in loser.
Accept it nor not. It is what it is.
True, I’m just not going to agree that it’s acceptable. We are way too talented of a team to just be ok with being what we are. Unacceptable to me.
Well, yeah. That goes for all of us. How do you think Ishbia feels?
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:25 am
by Split T
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:21 am
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:18 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:13 am
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:25 am
Nah…we made these moves to be a title contender. We shouldn’t accept anything less than that…especially not a play-in loser.
Accept it nor not. It is what it is.
True, I’m just not going to agree that it’s acceptable. We are way too talented of a team to just be ok with being what we are. Unacceptable to me.
Well, yeah. That goes for all of us. How do you think Ishbia feels?
He’s the important one…this off-season will be very interesting if the playoffs don’t go well.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:19 pm
by Mori Chu
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:36 am
Couple of things:
- 18M sounds like too much for Grayson. He has been good on the court, but he's not creator or a stopper. He's also not a leader or a culture maker. But I would still rather spend 18M of Ishbai's money on Grayson than spend 5M of Ishbia's money on someone worse.
- Can't blame KD for not giving the leadership we want. He has never been that guy.
- How smart are our players, really? I had thought we had a high IQ team, but I don't see the adjustments or smart basketball I want from these guys. Hard to tell if Vogul is holding the team back or if they just aren't as versatile as I expected.
I think the $75m extension for Grayson Allen is fair. He'll probably break our hearts and regress to the mean, but I think we should pay it rather than letting him walk. He's been absolutely exceptional for us this year, and if he can maintain close to this level of performance, he's worth that amount. And he'll get plenty of open shots next year, too, with our Big <= 3 in the lineup with him.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:37 pm
by SunsRIt
At this point nothing would surprise me with is team. A first round exit? Maybe. A championship? That could happen too. Who knows.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:41 pm
by Cap
SunsRIt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:37 pm
At this point nothing would surprise me with is team. A first round exit? Maybe. A championship? That could happen too. Who knows.
Well, bookies are offering +2500 on the Suns to win the championship. If you think we’re a serious contender, you might want some of that action.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:09 pm
by Split T
Insane he’s got a decent shot to top this list
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:52 pm
by Furlanfufi
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:03 am
by Superbone
They said tonight that the Suns final 10 games are against playoff teams and the last time that happened was over thirty years ago.
Re: Suns News: Week 23 (3/25 - 3/31)
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:00 am
by Gladiator
Good read. It would be interesting to see what our record would be if we just eliminated the egregious unforced errors. Feel like there’s 3-4 of those most games