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Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:14 am
by carey
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Last Week's Games
vs. Cleveland Cavaliers
LOSS 101-97
@ San Antonio Spurs
LOSS 112-79
@ Oklahoma City Thunder
LOSS 110-106
@ Sacramento Kings
LOSS 142-119
@ Los Angeles Lakers
LOSS 97-77
This Week's Games
Wednesday, January 6th vs. Charlotte Hornets 9:00PM EST
Friday, January 8th vs. Miami Heat 9:30PM EST
Suns Stories
'We’re at ground zero right now': Suns hit rock bottom of disastrous season (S.I.) -
http://www.si.com/nba/2016/01/04/phoeni ... g-problems
Also, Marc Stein had this to say:
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/684017448513843200
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:19 am
by In2ition
If they could get another shooter, a pass first pg, and win the Simmons lottery, I'd be all for it. Bring 7SOL back.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:36 am
by Indy
In2ition wrote:If they could get another shooter, a pass first pg, and win the Simmons lottery, I'd be all for it. Bring 7SOL back.
Honestly, the only thing holding them back from trying that would be a pass-first PG. They have shooters at the 2, 3, 4 and sometimes 5 (when we play small). What we don't have is a high BB IQ PG.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:55 am
by TOO
Indy wrote:In2ition wrote:If they could get another shooter, a pass first pg, and win the Simmons lottery, I'd be all for it. Bring 7SOL back.
Honestly, the only thing holding them back from trying that would be a pass-first PG. They have shooters at the 2, 3, 4 and sometimes 5 (when we play small). What we don't have is a high BB IQ PG.
All I see here is BBQ Pig. It's too early, and I'm hungry.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:02 am
by Indy
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Indy wrote:In2ition wrote:If they could get another shooter, a pass first pg, and win the Simmons lottery, I'd be all for it. Bring 7SOL back.
Honestly, the only thing holding them back from trying that would be a pass-first PG. They have shooters at the 2, 3, 4 and sometimes 5 (when we play small). What we don't have is a high BB IQ PG.
All I see here is BBQ Pig. It's too early, and I'm hungry.
Well a BBQ Pig has higher BBIQ than our PGs.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:38 am
by carey
From that S.I. piece.
Great organizations anticipate problems before they happen. Good organizations react swiftly to problems so as to limit the damage. And then there are the Suns, whose ham-handed handling of the Morris twins continues to drag on, and on, and on, and on.
A win will bring only temporary relief. Firing Hornacek won’t dramatically alter this group’s outlook either. The big-picture questions, the ones that trace back up the Suns’ hierarchy, are set to linger for years.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:57 am
by Indy
so damn depressing.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:31 am
by Cap
carey wrote:
'We’re at ground zero right now': Suns hit rock bottom of disastrous season (S.I.) -
I wish people would stop saying that. Every time someone says the Suns have hit rock bottom, they whip out the jackhammers and dig deeper.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:32 am
by Indy
Cap wrote:carey wrote:
'We’re at ground zero right now': Suns hit rock bottom of disastrous season (S.I.) -
I wish people would stop saying that. Every time someone says the Suns have hit rock bottom, they whip out the jackhammers and dig deeper.
You have to hit obsidian at some point.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:32 am
by carey
Cap wrote:carey wrote:
'We’re at ground zero right now': Suns hit rock bottom of disastrous season (S.I.) -
I wish people would stop saying that. Every time someone says the Suns have hit rock bottom, they whip out the jackhammers and dig deeper.
What's left? We've lost to the worst defense in the league and the worst team in the league. We've set franchise low marks for futility. I suppose Knight could tear an ACL and Len could break an ankle though, so maybe you're right.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:32 am
by Superbone
Indy wrote:Cap wrote:carey wrote:
'We’re at ground zero right now': Suns hit rock bottom of disastrous season (S.I.) -
I wish people would stop saying that. Every time someone says the Suns have hit rock bottom, they whip out the jackhammers and dig deeper.
You have to hit obsidian at some point.
The Suns are going to end up in China at the rate they're going!
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:34 am
by Indy
carey wrote:Cap wrote:carey wrote:
'We’re at ground zero right now': Suns hit rock bottom of disastrous season (S.I.) -
I wish people would stop saying that. Every time someone says the Suns have hit rock bottom, they whip out the jackhammers and dig deeper.
What's left? We've lost to the worst defense in the league and the worst team in the league. We've set franchise low marks for futility. I suppose Knight could tear an ACL and Len could break an ankle though, so maybe you're right.
If Knight is our only PG, we are better off trying to play without him. I am in no way hoping/wishing for an injury to him, especially not a career-changing one. But I am sure we would see better basketball without him leading this team.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:53 am
by The Bobster
This shit starts at the top with Sarver.
I truly believe we will continue to be frustrated until he decides he's ready to sell the team. Then we have to worry about if the new owner will be any better.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:55 am
by Mori Chu
Then who would start at PG? Price? Goodwin?
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:00 am
by Indy
Mori Chu wrote:Then who would start at PG? Price? Goodwin?
I don't care. He just doesn't have what it takes to run a team as the PG. There is a reason that DET bailed half way through his rookie contact, and MIL bailed at the end of it. He was a #8 pick after all.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:22 am
by Mori Chu
What do you think is the ideal fit for him, then? Microwave guard off the bench? Or is he too good for that? Maybe he just can't be on a winning team.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:34 am
by Indy
I think the microwave is best, but he is so hot and cold, you need to try him out and if he is on, play it all night. If not, pull the plug quickly.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:40 am
by ShelC
He might have a similar trajectory to Jason Terry. They tried making him a starting PG in Atlanta for years. Now even if he's starting off on the bench, he ends up closing out games.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:49 am
by Indy
Yeah, I can see him getting to that at some point. He needs to work on his consistency, and how much he telegraphs what he is going to do coming down the floor.
Re: Suns News: Week 11 1/4-1/10
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:55 am
by Indy
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2604 ... ave-become
Suns Have Only Themsleves to Blame for the Inconsistent Mess They Have Become
By Kevin Ding , NBA Senior Writer Jan 4, 2016
The basic ideas of a pick-and-roll offense and a Tyson Chandler-anchored defense have delivered only sluggish results. Knight said it has been different mistakes on different nights, but confusion is naturally going to occur when the team lacks "something that we can go [with] that works for us, something so that we know we're going to be playing the right way."
Some of that falls on Chandler, the veteran presence who let the Suns get outscored by an incomprehensible 30 points in his 20 minutes of action Sunday night. That was after his costly ejection in Sacramento Saturday night.