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There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:14 am
by SDC
but it requires sacrificing Mcdo... or at least demoting him to scouting or assistant GM.

The trend nowadays to get highly sought after coaches is to give him more power--meaning giving him GM powers. For example, Stan van gundy with the pistons. or doc rivers with LAC.

I think that's the only way thibs might consider coaching THIS team.

the question though is... do we want to sacrifice mcdo?

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:28 am
by ShelC
Thibs doesn't want to be GM and McD and Thibs probably have a history from their Boston days so there'd at least be some familiarity. The question is does McD (and/or Sarver) want the style of basketball Thibs will bring.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:41 am
by SDC
Thibs doesn't want to be GM and McD and Thibs probably have a history from their Boston days so there'd at least be some familiarity.
i heard from zach lowe's podcast that thibs wants what SVG got in detroit. if thibs and mcdo had a relationship in the past, even better. mcdo might acquiesce.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:44 am
by ShelC
That's probably because of what he experienced in Chicago, which despite their success, is a pretty dysfunctional front office.

I think Thibs just wants someone he knows and has his back. SVG is GM, but he hired Otis Smith (former GM of the Magic) to essentially run the front office. SVG might have final say, but Smith is his guy and they're on the same page.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:49 am
by JCSunsfan
If we get Thibs, you all will be wanting to run him out of town on a rail within 6 months.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:56 am
by Indy
JCSunsfan wrote:If we get Thibs, you all will be wanting to run him out of town on a rail within 6 months.
No way. It will be more like 2.5 years. I realize they aren't the same caliber, but it will be like when we had Skiles.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:21 am
by Mori Chu
I'd still take him.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:28 am
by Indy
Mori Chu wrote:I'd still take him.
1) He won't want to come here anyway
2) If he did, no way we would pay him what he wants for as long as he wants

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:38 am
by ShelC
It's natural to want to go from one extreme to the other. Team is too loose and undisciplined because of the coach, get a taskmaster. Team is too tight and overworked because of the coach, go with a player's coach who will loosen the reigns. The Bulls have played this game the past 10-12 years. Skiles-Del Negro-Thibs-Hoiberg. We've been guilty of it too with Ainge to Skiles to Frank Johnson. Then MikeD to Porter to Gentry. There's no blueprint and going to the other extreme isn't always the answer either.

If you go with a guy like Thibs, you have to accept him for what he is and not get mad when he's burning your guys out after 2-3 years. He's crazy, he's intense, he eats/sleeps/breathes basketball and there's no changing that. He's your system and you need to make it clear that you're backing him. The players need to either fall in line or be prepared to get traded.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:53 am
by Indy
The players need to either fall in line or be prepared to get traded.
And the FO needs to be able to trade them (even if you don't get an equal return).

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:53 am
by Indy
And realistically, wouldn't you want your window to be 3-5 years if you get him? You can't bring him in to a situation where you won't be competing for a ring in that span. He just isn't sustainable.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:23 am
by UglyTruth
I would be fine with demoting McD to maybe draft director or some title like that cause other than drafting, he really isn't that good anyway.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:39 am
by Ring_Wanted
If I am McD and you try to pull that on me, I quit. Job offers won't be a problem.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 am
by JCSunsfan
Thibs is the wrong guy for this young team.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:57 am
by Wally_West
GMs don't get demoted like that, they get fired.

Re: There's a way to get Tom Thibodeau

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:41 am
by Hermen
Wally_West wrote:GMs don't get demoted like that, they get fired.
Except Divac apparently ;)