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Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:42 am
by Mori Chu
I think it's more about conservative vs liberal or progressive politics. In the cases carey was listing (slavery, segregation, racism, and homophobia), I believe he means that whatever was the more progressive policy at the time has turned out to be the consensus "correct" policy today.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:54 pm
by Cap
I think it's that "States Rights" is always about hostility toward minorities. There are other kinds of state rights, but the term isn't used for them.

Many in the GOP want to eliminate the right of states to regulate health insurance policies sold with their borders. (Or as they put it, "Unleash competition by allowing policies to be sold across state lines.") You don't hear this crap in the Democratic Party, just the party of "States Rights."

This hypocrisy goes all the way back to the beginning. With all the talk about fighting for States Rights, you'd think the Conferate Constitution would have recognized the right of states to determine for themselves whether to be slave states or free states. Nope. Slavery was constitutionally protected throughout the Confederacy. The right to be a free state was not the kind of States Rights they were fighting for.

"States Rights" is rarely used as a rallying cry for any policies other than those intended to harm vulnerable minorities, because proponents of other agendas don't want their agendas to be associated with that crap.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:53 pm
by SDC
TRANS WRESTLER WINS IN FIRST ROUND OF GIRLS TOURNAMENT...
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local ... 61654.html

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:01 am
by AmareIsGod
SDC wrote:TRANS WRESTLER WINS IN FIRST ROUND OF GIRLS TOURNAMENT...
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local ... 61654.html
Then have him wrestle boys. It's not his fault that they look at his birth certificate and thus have him wrestle women, simply because he was born a woman. Parents and coaches can't complain and detest about her winning while being on testosterone if he's being forced to wrestle according to his birth certificate. Even he states he'd prefer to wrestle boys. It's ridiculous.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:59 am
by Mori Chu
I do think (trans + sports) will be a tricky subject. Not really sure what to do about it. Thus far we get by because not many transgender people want to pursue high-level athletic competition, but we will have to decide what is fair and reasonable when they do. I'm not sure what the best solution is. I don't think we should remove sex/gender from sports; it would be a crushing blow to women's sports if they had to suddenly compete against the men.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:17 am
by In2ition
As schools complain about the cost of supporting sports in schools, it's not outrageous to think that gender could be eliminated all together from sports competition. This would lower the participants, numbers of teams, equipment, facilities, transportation, coaches, fees, and restrictions based on Title IX requirements. More money could be put back into performing arts programs.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:26 pm
by SDC
Trinity’s transgender boy wins girls state wrestling crown
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local ... 21414.html

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:41 pm
by AmareIsGod
SDC wrote:Trinity’s transgender boy wins girls state wrestling crown
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local ... 21414.html
Again, I have no issue at all with the transgender boy. He wasn't choosing to wrestle women. Blame the University Interscholastic League.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:24 am
by Mori Chu
SDC is horrified by the idea of trans individuals existing, so if he can find any article about them accomplishing something, he has to post it in an effort to shame them.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:29 pm
by SDC
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:SDC is horrified by the idea of trans individuals existing, so if he can find any article about them accomplishing something, he has to post it in an effort to shame them.
Mack Beggs is now 55-0 on the season.

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local ... 61654.html

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:00 am
by Indy
Does it confuse anyone else that SDC spends his time searching for trans people succeeding at something so he can shame them?

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:36 am
by Nodack
I'm not confused. At this point it's expected.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:25 am
by Superbone
I'm surprised you guys are still reading him/her.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:30 pm
by Indy
Superbone wrote:I'm surprised you guys are still reading him/her.
Only when people quote him on the rest of the board. But in this section, I think it is really important to see what other people are saying, regardless of how different their beliefs are. I would say that the level of importance rises inversely proportional to how much you agree with them.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:34 pm
by AmareIsGod
Indy wrote:
Superbone wrote:I'm surprised you guys are still reading him/her.
Only when people quote him on the rest of the board. But in this section, I think it is really important to see what other people are saying, regardless of how different their beliefs are. I would say that the level of importance rises inversely proportional to how much you agree with them.
I'm amazed people like him exist. And then I talk to my friends about their parents. And my own parents. The parallels are uncanny. I can assure you that SDC is probably in his 50s, possibly 60s. Caucasian. Male. The only thing that differentiates him from that same group of people I'm referring to that I'm well aware of is that they aren't anti-trans and anti-Muslim. At least not as outright as he is (maybe it's something their circle of 50+ year old caucasian people talk about their disdain for regularly).

It's sad that so many people live their lives glued to the news and spewing hatred and angst. And for what? To die with hate and spite someday? I've detached myself from the news and my life has been entirely better for it. I catch up from time to time but it's no longer a regular part of my day. It's only been a couple of months but I can say with certainty that my anxiety and depression about the sad state of affairs around me has subsided.

Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:40 am
by SDC
:lol:


Re: Trump rolls back Obama-era transgender rights law

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:15 am
by Mori Chu
SDC, it's hard to engage you seriously in this discussion when you post "LOL" emojis laughing at transgender people.