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Superbone wrote:If this is proven to be true, what effect does it have? Enough to get Trump impeached?

Nothing will get him impeached unless there are enough people in congress to violate the sacrosanct party lines.

In2ition wrote:Again? Can we trust anything that comes out to CNN anymore? I guess we wait and see...

Have we already gone over this before? Do we have evidence of CNN openly sharing lies as facts? They are certainly more partisan than places like the Wall Street Journal, but much less so than Fox or MSNBC.

In2ition wrote:Again? Can we trust anything that comes out to CNN anymore? I guess we wait and see...

I trust CNN a hell of a lot more than FOX or Breitbart and Trump has absolutely zero credability now. Just because a serial liar calls CNN fake news because they keep reporting news Trump doesn't want reported doesn't mean I have lost any faith in them. Quite the opposite. Lean liberal? Yes. Fake? Nope.

Nodack wrote:

In2ition wrote:Again? Can we trust anything that comes out to CNN anymore? I guess we wait and see...

I trust CNN a hell of a lot more than FOX or Breitbart and Trump has absolutely zero credability now. Just because a serial liar calls CNN fake news because they keep reporting news Trump doesn't want reported doesn't mean I have lost any faith in them. Quite the opposite. Lean liberal? Yes. Fake? Nope.

It just seems that they have an ax to grind and if it doesn't fit their preconceived beliefs, they won't report it. They will bang this drum and there hasn't been any evidence to this. If they wanted to demonize anyone and they decided on an angle they were going to push, they would do it until they could make it fit. This is just my opinion, but I've been waiting an awful long time and yet have seen nothing worthy. I'll keep waiting though.

The probably do have an axe to grind. Trump declared war on them. What haven't they reported that they should have?

They are banging the Russian drum for sure. There hasn't been any concrete evidence that Trump was working with the Russians yet but, there has been a ton of circumstantial evidence and that is why the intelligence community is investigating. If Trump had nothing to hide then he should welcome the investigation and release his tax returns in order to clear this up faster. Instead Trump has refised to release his taxes, made crazy wild accusations about Obama and the UK trying to deflect and has told blatent lies easily verified such as saying Manafort was only with the campaign a very short time and only played a very minor role. He was in charge of the entire campaign and was there until news broke that he was on the Russian payroll.

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:If this is proven to be true, what effect does it have? Enough to get Trump impeached?

Nothing will get him impeached unless there are enough people in congress to violate the sacrosanct party lines.

So, he would just live out his term as a lame duck and go down as the most reviled president in US history?

Superbone wrote:

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:If this is proven to be true, what effect does it have? Enough to get Trump impeached?

Nothing will get him impeached unless there are enough people in congress to violate the sacrosanct party lines.

So, he would just live out his term as a lame duck and go down as the most reviled president in US history?

No, he will get his tax items passed, he will make deals with other countries that significantly help him (see China trademarks) and then leave office with hundreds of millions (if not billions) more than when he took office.

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:If this is proven to be true, what effect does it have? Enough to get Trump impeached?

Nothing will get him impeached unless there are enough people in congress to violate the sacrosanct party lines.

So, he would just live out his term as a lame duck and go down as the most reviled president in US history?

No, he will get his tax items passed, he will make deals with other countries that significantly help him (see China trademarks) and then leave office with hundreds of millions (if not billions) more than when he took office.

Maybe he didn't even want to be president and just got caught up in it all. He probably just wants to put his kids in power eventually, maybe Ivanka becomes the first women President. Since Lavar Ball doesn't have any girls, he can't proclaim that.

In2ition wrote:

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:If this is proven to be true, what effect does it have? Enough to get Trump impeached?

Nothing will get him impeached unless there are enough people in congress to violate the sacrosanct party lines.

So, he would just live out his term as a lame duck and go down as the most reviled president in US history?

No, he will get his tax items passed, he will make deals with other countries that significantly help him (see China trademarks) and then leave office with hundreds of millions (if not billions) more than when he took office.

Maybe he didn't even want to be president and just got caught up in it all. He probably just wants to put his kids in power eventually, maybe Ivanka becomes the first women President. Since Lavar Ball doesn't have any girls, he can't proclaim that.

Lmao!

In2ition wrote:

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:If this is proven to be true, what effect does it have? Enough to get Trump impeached?

Nothing will get him impeached unless there are enough people in congress to violate the sacrosanct party lines.

So, he would just live out his term as a lame duck and go down as the most reviled president in US history?

No, he will get his tax items passed, he will make deals with other countries that significantly help him (see China trademarks) and then leave office with hundreds of millions (if not billions) more than when he took office.

Maybe he didn't even want to be president and just got caught up in it all. He probably just wants to put his kids in power eventually, maybe Ivanka becomes the first women President. Since Lavar Ball doesn't have any girls, he can't proclaim that.

That's what this has been about the whole time.

In my mind, Trump has had two objectives.

1. Make himself unimaginably richer than he ever could have been before.

2. Move his family name from the business class to the political class.

Everything about Trump boils down to his ego. Money, women, power, TV, it's just food for his ego.

He's not exactly the first POTUS with a massive ego.

Cap wrote:He's not exactly the first POTUS with a massive ego.

There's never been a POTUS that has been this immature and insecure as far as I know. (As Walt Frazier might say.)

Cap wrote:He's not exactly the first POTUS with a massive ego.

Very true. You can probably count on 1 hand how many didn't.