Election Day 2016 Megathread

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NYT's #1 Pro-Trump Hate Crime story

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/29/europe/us ... index.html

US President-elect Donald Trump's suggestion that he may re-evaluate the nature of the NATO alliance -- which he has labeled "obsolete" -- has frayed nerves here in Norway.
At a remote border post on a snowy peak, within sight of Russia, a Norwegian soldier surveys the scene below through binoculars. He's heard all about Trump's election, he tells us, but he's not allowed to talk about it -- or what it might mean.
Under Article 5 any member in need is guaranteed military support from the US, but Trump has argued that the agreement "is costing us a fortune" and has hinted that he may consider pulling out, potentially leaving allies on Europe's eastern border unprotected in the face of an attack.
"A year ago -- [we would have] no doubt" about America's commitment to Article 5 and our defense, the Norwegian official told CNN. "[The] US is and will be in the future our most important ally."
Yet he went on to add that -- if Mr Trump's policies match his campaign rhetoric -- "he is about to break a very long tradition in American foreign policy."
"If he is going to do what he has said during his election campaign, he will have to change the US way of dealing with foreign countries and create a new security model."

The official conceded that "Trump is right when he says we have to pay a larger portion" of NATO's funding. Allies are supposed to spend at least 2% of GDP of defense, but only five nations -- the US, Greece, the UK, Estonia and Poland -- meet that target.
According to NATO statistics, the US spent an estimated $650 billion on defense in 2015 -- more than double the amount spent by the other 27 NATO allies put together.
But with Russia resurgent, now may be exactly the wrong moment to step away from an alliance that has lasted more than 60 years.


I am hoping this is just a bluff by Trump to get NATO members to step up and he doesn't actually pull out of NATO. He prides himself on being unpredictable and his words have sent alarm bells throughout NATO and the world. Nobody would be happier for the US to pull out of NATO than Russia. I think he is bluffing and I think NATO countries will step up because of it. If he isn't bluffing and pulls out of NATO it would be a huge disaster and a gift to Russia.

He is also talking of pulling out of all our trade deals. I don't think he is bluffing there and that will make only make our prices soar and help China and Russia.

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Gawd I would hope that he's at least reasonable on these issues and learns all the ins and outs to the decisions and ramifications that take place. Can the US renegotiate the trade deals to be a little more equitable?
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In2ition wrote:Gawd I would hope that he's at least reasonable on these issues and learns all the ins and outs to the decisions and ramifications that take place. Can the US renegotiate the trade deals to be a little more equitable?
I think that can only happen if he surrounds himself with people that aren't there to curry favor, but to actually run the country for what is best for all Americans. So far, his suggested appointments are either incredibly tied to banking, billionaires, and/or 50-60 years behind in their basic understanding of science. I am not too sure they will be the ones to help him see the error of his ways.

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All of Donald Trump’s Four-Pinocchio ratings, in one place
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... 7c16e0129b

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Yet ANOTHER hate crime. Man beaten by mob because they suspected he voted for Trump.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=55910

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Do you actually read sites like this? The headlines are hilariously biased, all toward Trump and against minorities.

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Trump picks a guy that hates the EPA and is suing the EPA as the head of the EPA. What could go wrong?

Trump picks a woman who despises public schooling and wants to go to an all voucher system to head the Department of Education. Goodbye schooling for the poor.

Ben Carson the surgeon as Housing Chief?

Steven Mnuchin, a billionaire financier nominated for Treasury Secretary, is the Goldman Sachs golden boy and foreclosure king who profited off of thousands of people losing their homes.

Jeff Sessions is an Alabama Republican tapped by Trump to lead the Department of Justice (DOJ).

"Sen. Sessions history of racism, xenophobia, homophobia and attacks on civil and voting rights is lengthy and well documented," Schakowsky charged. "He is the embodiment of division — the direct opposite of a unifying figure."

Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), Trump's pick to head the Health and Human Services Department, is also in the liberals’ sights for promoting long-held GOP efforts to repeal ObamaCare and privatize Medicare.

Price, Jackson Lee said, "clearly wants to dismantle and implode a safety net for millions of Americans."

It seems clear these people weren't picked to run these agencies but, to dismantle them.

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Nodack wrote:Trump picks a guy that hates the EPA and is suing the EPA as the head of the EPA. What could go wrong?

Trump picks a woman who despises public schooling and wants to go to an all voucher system to head the Department of Education. Goodbye schooling for the poor.

Ben Carson the surgeon as Housing Chief?

Steven Mnuchin, a billionaire financier nominated for Treasury Secretary, is the Goldman Sachs golden boy and foreclosure king who profited off of thousands of people losing their homes.

Jeff Sessions is an Alabama Republican tapped by Trump to lead the Department of Justice (DOJ).

"Sen. Sessions history of racism, xenophobia, homophobia and attacks on civil and voting rights is lengthy and well documented," Schakowsky charged. "He is the embodiment of division — the direct opposite of a unifying figure."

Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), Trump's pick to head the Health and Human Services Department, is also in the liberals’ sights for promoting long-held GOP efforts to repeal ObamaCare and privatize Medicare.

Price, Jackson Lee said, "clearly wants to dismantle and implode a safety net for millions of Americans."

It seems clear these people weren't picked to run these agencies but, to dismantle them.
isn't that what most Republicans say they want? Less government?

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And to add to that, he is likely going to name the Carl's Jr. CEO his pick for Labor Secretary. So the person that is supposed to be a watchdog for the people to ensure business aren't taking advantage of them, is running fast food restaurants. Looks to be par for the course. Looks like we get closer and closer to a class-based civil war each day.

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Interesting
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Indy wrote:Looks like we get closer and closer to a class-based civil war each day.
What does "class-based civil war" mean?

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I am convinced that those societies (as the Indians) which live without government enjoy in their general mass an infinitely greater degree of happiness than those who live under the European governments. Among the former, public opinion is in the place of law, & restrains morals as powerfully as laws ever did anywhere. Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves & sheep. I do not exaggerate. This is a true picture of Europe. Cherish therefore the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. Do not be too severe upon their errors, but reclaim them by enlightening them. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you & I, & Congress & Assemblies, judges & governors shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions; and experience declares that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the governments of Europe, and to the general prey of the rich on the poor.[

— Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington - January 16, 1787

Warren Buffet
The investor, and billionaire , and philanthropist Warren Buffett, one of the 10 wealthiest persons in the world, voiced in 2005 and once more in 2006 his view that his class – the "rich class" – is waging class warfare on the rest of society. In 2005 Buffet said to CNN: "It's class warfare, my class is winning, but they shouldn't be." In a November 2006 interview in The New York Times, Buffett stated that "[t]here’s class warfare all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." Later Warren gave away more than half of his fortune to charitable causes through a program developed by himself and computer software tycoon Bill Gates. In 2011 Buffett called on government legislators to, "...stop coddling the super rich."

Arab Spring
Numerous factors have culminated in what's known as the Arab Spring. Agenda behind the civil unrest, and the ultimate overthrow of authoritarian governments throughout the Middle-East included issues such as dictatorship or absolute monarchy, human rights violations, government corruption (demonstrated by Wikileaks diplomatic cables), economic decline, unemployment, extreme poverty, and a number of demographic structural factors, such as a large percentage of educated but dissatisfied youth within the population. Also, some, like Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek attribute the 2009 Iranian protests as one of the reasons behind the Arab Spring. The catalysts for the revolts in all Northern African and Persian Gulf countries have been the concentration of wealth in the hands of autocrats in power for decades, insufficient transparency of its redistribution, corruption, and especially the refusal of the youth to accept the status quo. as they involve threats to food security worldwide and prices that approach levels of the 2007–2008 world food price crisis.Amnesty International singled out Wikileaks' release of US diplomatic cables as a catalyst for the revolts.

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Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg was quoted in the Chicago Tribune gently chiding Trump for being against trade. Muilenburg noted that trade is essential to the US economy, as reflected in the "large and growing percentage of our business" coming from international sales, including commercial jet orders from China.

Moments later, Trump tweeted: "Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!"

Later he added, "We want Boeing to make a lot of money but not that much money."
Boeing shares immediately took a hit.

As it turns out, Boeing does not even have a $4 billion order to make Air Force One planes.

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Nice. Trump is just willy nilly messing with companies' fortunes.
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So, we had a financial meltdown that led to the great recession at the end of Bush's term. Perhaps some of you remember that. It almost did us in. They wrote several movies that described it in detail. The Big Short, Too Big To Fail, Inside Job, Capitalism: A Love Story, Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps, Margin Call are some.

There were many causes of the melt down. Here's an article that breaks them down.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2 ... o-the.aspx

Legislation was passed to make sure this type of thing didn't happen again. It was called the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. The stated aim of the legislation is:

To promote the financial stability of the United States by improving accountability and transparency in the financial system, to end "too big to fail", to protect the American taxpayer by ending bailouts, to protect consumers from abusive financial services practices, and for other purposes.

The Act changes the existing regulatory structure, by creating a number of new agencies (while merging and removing others) in an effort to streamline the regulatory process, increasing oversight of specific institutions regarded as a systemic risk, amending the Federal Reserve Act, promoting transparency, and additional changes. The Act's intentions are to provide rigorous standards and supervision to protect the economy and American consumers, investors and businesses; end taxpayer-funded bailouts of financial institutions; provide for an advanced warning system on the stability of the economy; create new rules on executive compensation and corporate governance; and eliminate certain loopholes that led to the 2008 economic recession
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On the campaign trail Trump promised to dismantle the law. As we speak Republicans are already getting ready to change the law although they say they don't want to completely dismantle everything in it.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/30975 ... dodd-frank

The natural starting point for Republicans is the Financial CHOICE Act, a massive Dodd-Frank rewrite introduced in June by House Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas).

The bill is a compilation of several Republican regulatory goals, some of which passed the House as standalone bills.

Many changes drastically reshape regulators and rules established by Dodd-Frank. It would let Congress control the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)’s budget and replace its one director with a bipartisan board.

The CHOICE Act also eliminates the Treasury Department’s Office of Financial Research, and ends the federal government's ability to take over and dismantle a failing bank before it triggers an economic crisis.

The bill also nixes a provision subjecting “systemically important financial institutions” to stricter oversight. It also kills the “Volcker Rule,” which bans banks from certain risky trades
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So...look forward to unprecedented financial prosperity for the next 8 years, then it all turns into chaos and disaster sh!tshow afterwards?
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I really don't know what to expect exept that Trump is going to get a heavy dose or reality in a month that I don't think he is prepared for. He has spent the last year in a non reality bubble of his making. Having to back up all that BS with action is a different beast. You can only blame everybody else for so long. Now he has to work with all those people he bashed.

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LeBron James Takes Stand Against Donald Trump with ‘Safety Pin’ Sports Illustrated Pic
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THE NEXT STAGE OF TRUMP’S AFRICAN-AMERICAN OUTREACH

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