The GOP / RNC

[Mori Chu]

Uhhh... Note that In2 has shared tweets from this guy Jack Posobiec approvingly. In2, do you approve of this statement?

[In2ition]

The full context seems to be missing. I don't agree with what he says in the clip, but it feels like a carefully edited cut to make it look bad. Posobiec can be an idiot too.

[Mori Chu]

What context would make that clip be okay?

[In2ition]

Idk, that's a good question. I haven't looked for the full clip.

[Nodack]

It sounds as if he was being a little sarcastic to me. It must have been in a church because all the glory went to God after that.

[Nodack]

It used to be embellish the truth to make your opponentlook as bad as possible. Not any more. Just make up whatever lies you want that make your opponent look bad and don’t even bother worrying about whether they are true or not.

Lies and dirty tricks: Texas Republicans are eating their own in this year’s primaries
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-BB1iMau7

[Mori Chu]

Awkward.

[BKinSJC]

Awkward.

Could be something that happened, but this tweet is essentially repeating as fact something that was said as "gossip" and "rumor".

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2 ... r-00143336

"Rep. Matt Rosendale’s office is threatening legal action against former Sen. Heidi Heitkamp after she said on a podcast that he dropped out of the Senate race because he impregnated a staffer." ...

“I think [the GOP] caucus may lose a member in the next couple days,” Heitkamp alleged. “Just to gossip a little bit: There’s a reason why Rosendale backed out of that Senate race — the rumor is he impregnated a 20-year-old staff person.”

Just another reminder that Twitter should be seen as exactly what it generally is: a collection of unvetted opinions that may or may not bear any relation to reality.

[Nodack]

And 90% of the political posts trying to prove points here are Twitter posts by people I have never heard of. For some reason they think putting BREAKING NEWS before their posts gives them credibility. Twitter posts citing an actual mainstream newspaper but, they don’t give a link to the article they are supposedly quoting, so you can’t check. There might even be an article somewhere. It probably doesn’t quite say what the X post says it says. That’s why no link.

People say the mainstream media is fake. It may be slanted one way or the other but intentionally lying can cost hundreds of millions in fines. Ask FOX. When I see 8 different mainstream articles say the same thing, I am pretty sure it’s not fake. When I see 8 different X post with each one breaking a different scandal written by 8 different people that I have never heard of and none of these stories makes it to any mainstream site I give them much less credibility.

[Mori Chu]

You are right; thanks for correcting me. It sounds like the notion that he impregnated a staffer is a rumor, spoken by an ex-senator but not proven true by evidence at this time.

[In2ition]

And 90% of the political posts trying to prove points here are Twitter posts by people I have never heard of. For some reason they think putting BREAKING NEWS before their posts gives them credibility. Twitter posts citing an actual mainstream newspaper but, they don’t give a link to the article they are supposedly quoting, so you can’t check. There might even be an article somewhere. It probably doesn’t quite say what the X post says it says. That’s why no link.

People say the mainstream media is fake. It may be slanted one way or the other but intentionally lying can cost hundreds of millions in fines. Ask FOX. When I see 8 different mainstream articles say the same thing, I am pretty sure it’s not fake. When I see 8 different X post with each one breaking a different scandal written by 8 different people that I have never heard of and none of these stories makes it to any mainstream site I give them much less credibility.

So these are definitely examples of how reinforcement is what convinces you it's true? Here are different news medias around the country telling you the same thing. So, appeal to authority & repeated message by them is convincing...hmmm. I can see that words that are repeated over and over by your "trusted sources" are comforting for you, like "baseless", "democracy", "dictator", "fascist", "domestic terrorist", "safe & effective", and other buzz words of the day. Maybe if you are mindful of the buzzwords that are being used each day, you will see it for what it is.

[Mori Chu]

Do you not know that there are large companies that own many of the country's local TV news stations? They send out these mandatory reads to their stations and every station reads them. You post this video with them superimposed like it's some kind of ... dare I say it ... CoNsPiRaCy or something, but they're just given notes to read by their parent company. It happens all the time. Go Google Sinclair Media if you want to learn more about one big example.

[Nodack]

I have my own BS meter built in and sometimes it pegs the needle when I read.

MSNBC - There is a hurricane in Florida
CNN- There is a hurricane in Florida
BBC- There is a hurricane in Florida
CBS- There is a hurricane in Florida
NPR- There is a hurricane in Florida
USA Today- There is a hurricane in Florida
Nodack- There must be a hurricane in Florida
Maganews- It’s all fake!

[Nodack]

[JeremyG]

Also, In2, that middle tweet is not a very good example of what you're trying to prove, since they are all simply quoting an expert (Michael Osterholm) who said "viral blizzard."

[In2ition]

I'm not disputing that large companies can own many of the country's local TV news stations, and they sent out mandatory reads. There are other examples of using buzzwords over and over. Have you ever heard of Operation Mockingbird? It's not a CoNsPiRaCy or something.

[In2ition]

I have my own BS meter built in and sometimes it pegs the needle when I read.

MSNBC - There is a hurricane in Florida
CNN- There is a hurricane in Florida
BBC- There is a hurricane in Florida
CBS- There is a hurricane in Florida
NPR- There is a hurricane in Florida
USA Today- There is a hurricane in Florida
Nodack- There must be a hurricane in Florida
Maganews- It’s all fake!

This is a disingenuous example, but the tone and intent is recognized and expected from the poster named Nodack.

[Nodack]

You are welcome.

[Superbone]

Do you not know that there are large companies that own many of the country's local TV news stations? They send out these mandatory reads to their stations and every station reads them. You post this video with them superimposed like it's some kind of ... dare I say it ... CoNsPiRaCy or something, but they're just given notes to read by their parent company. It happens all the time. Go Google Sinclair Media if you want to learn more about one big example.

Yep, John Oliver makes fun of these often on his show.

[Nodack]

Large companies own much of everything and they keep merging to become larger companies that keep swallowing smaller companies. Amazon, Walmart, Guitar Center, iHeart radio, airlines, hotel chains, even RV parks.

The Federal Trade Commission on Monday sued to block the $25 billion deal between Kroger and Albertsons, alleging the largest supermarket merger in US history would lead to higher prices, store closures and job losses.