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Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 10:26 am
by In2ition
Indy wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 9:12 am
https://www.denverpost.com/2022/05/08/2 ... act-check/
CLAIM: If it weren’t for this ballot collection scheme, former President Donald Trump would have had enough votes to win the 2020 election.
THE FACTS: This alleged scheme has not been proven, nor do these researchers have any way of knowing whether any ballots that were collected contained votes for Trump or for Biden.
There’s no evidence a massive ballot harvesting scheme dumped a large amount of votes for one candidate into drop boxes, and if there were, it would likely be caught quickly, according to Derek Muller, a law professor at the University of Iowa.
“Once you get just a few people involved, people start to reveal the scheme because it unravels pretty quickly,” he said.
Absentee ballots are also verified by signature and tracked closely, often with an option for voters themselves to see where their ballot is at any given time. That process safeguards against anyone who tries to illegally cast extra ballots, according to Barry Burden, a University of Wisconsin-Madison political science professor and the director of the Elections Research Project.
“It seems impossible in that system for a nefarious actor to dump lots of ballots that were never requested by voters and were never issued by election officials,” Burden said.
This is part of AP’s effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with outside companies and organizations to add factual context to misleading content that is circulating online. Learn more about fact-checking at AP.
I agree that once you've caught a few of these "mules", you could eventually get them to flip and turn states evidence. You would think it would happen quite quickly. I agree with that.
They are literally showing you evidence of massive ballot harvesting scheme, but you don't know who they are casting the ballot for. I don't know if you need to prove who they voted for, if you can prove that they were cast & harvested illegally. You certainly couldn't certify that the counts were accurate, and the winner was definite.
Also, another point here. It was shown that the signature matching became a complete joke in these states, where you could have your 5 yr old do one of the signatures and it would match to any signature, that's how far the sensitivity was reduced in the 2020 election. So saying that they are verified by signature and tracked closely, was a complete joke and make me laugh out loud.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 10:36 am
by Indy
Flip them and turns states evidence? This is not a Blue Bloods episode. Who paid these people to make sure Joe Biden won, but lose so many state elections to republicans? If you are going to commit thousands of felonies, why do it for one office while losing enough other races where the senate has no majority and many state legislatures are solidly QOP?
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 10:46 am
by In2ition
Indy wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 10:36 am
Flip them and turns states evidence? This is not a Blue Bloods episode. Who paid these people to make sure Joe Biden won, but lose so many state elections to republicans? If you are going to commit thousands of felonies, why do it for one office while losing enough other races where the senate has no majority and many state legislatures are solidly QOP?
It would be felony and a pretty serious one, Indy. Didn't the Dem senate candidates win the runoff in GA?
The argument of down ballot winners is also used by those saying that it shows fraud. Usually the popular candidate that brings out people to vote gets a huge jump for the people down ballot in the same party. The fact that it didn't happen for Joe, isn't a good argument for "See there was no fraud" by the Blue Anons.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 11:42 am
by Indy
So your logical argument is someone paid thousands of people to get a president elected while not bothering to rig any other races that would actually help their cause? Just for fun? What is this fictitious-person-that-just-wants-to-see-Biden-president-but-doesn't-care-about-passing-any-laws hoping to get out of this felonious activity?
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 12:40 pm
by In2ition
I don't believe that I made this argument.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 12:51 pm
by Indy
You kind of did. But sounds like you are back tracking now. So progress.
But what is the logical argument for committing all of these felonies to get your preferred candidate in one office, but losing so many others?
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 1:10 pm
by In2ition
I didn't make that argument. I would make a different argument.
So are you talking about each of the mules committing all these felonies, or whoever is in charge of all of it?
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 1:25 pm
by Nodack
Mules = A person with a phone.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 1:29 pm
by In2ition
Nodack wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 1:25 pm
Mules = A person with a phone.
Say something that you think makes you seem smart, but just shows that you didn't watch the movie and know nothing about the subject.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 1:47 pm
by Indy
Nodack wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 1:25 pm
Mules = A person with a phone.
Or a smart watch or an ipad or any other device (including car wifi) that talks to cell towers.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 1:48 pm
by Indy
In2ition wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 1:10 pm
I didn't make that argument. I would make a different argument.
So are you talking about each of the mules committing all these felonies, or whoever is in charge of all of it?
share your argument. you seem to be doing your typical "look at all this stuff!" --> people ask you to defend it --> "I didn't say I agree with it!" thing.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 3:04 pm
by In2ition
LOL, you are free to think whatever you want to think.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 6:52 pm
by Mori Chu
The movie has been thoroughly debunked. No election fraud, sorry Charlie.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 7:23 pm
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 6:52 pm
The movie has been thoroughly debunked. No election fraud, sorry Charlie.
Oh really? Lmao
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 8:12 pm
by Nodack
I’m sure if Soros made a movie about how Trump was lying about the stolen election in2 wouldn’t be suspicious at all.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 7:09 am
by Mori Chu
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 8:29 am
by In2ition
Nodack wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 8:12 pm
I’m sure if Soros made a movie about how Trump was lying about the stolen election in2 wouldn’t be suspicious at all.
Soros is your hero? Holy shit, we're all doomed.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 8:50 am
by Indy
I think you just confirmed Trump is yours.
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:17 am
by In2ition
Indy wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 8:50 am
I think you just confirmed Trump is yours.
Seek help. You're fabricating things in your head again. Is Trump in the room with you now?
Re: 2020 Election Thread
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 12:15 pm
by Nodack
Like you saying Soros is my hero?