The Great Reset

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AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:27 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:58 pm
Am I understanding this correctly, that this is a thread devoted to promoting a conspiracy theory? Is that what we are doing now?

I want this area to be a place for open discussion. But I do not want my site being used to promote and disseminate conspiracy theories. I think it is fine to have an intellectual discussion about the prominence and rise of various info and disinfo and its effect on people. ("Did you know? Some folks from Q-Anon are talking about a 'PizzaGate' conspiracy theory that claims ___. Huh, that's interesting!" etc.) But this thread seems to be actively promoting the conspiracy theory on its merits and arguing that it may likely be true.

Is that the case? Am I misunderstanding what is being claimed in this thread? If my understanding is correct, I find such content unwelcome and ask that it be posted somewhere else.
Marty, with all due respect, it's not a conspiracy theory. Your understanding is incorrect. I was just curious what you all thought about it, and assumed you even knew about it. This is being openly talked about by the WEF and the leaders that go there. For goodness sake, when it's out in the open, it's not an F'n conspiracy.
But it being a front for taking over the world is the conspiracy. And that is what you are getting at and trying to promote with this thread, am I right?
I thought I wrote what I was getting at in the first post and later, no?
Moving to a one world government with one currency and one set of rules is not a conspiracy either. It's been the obsessive wet dream of many of the leaders for yrs. And what are you trying to say that I'm "promoting"? I thought this was widely known. Apparently, I'm making you all aware of what is going on in the world, that you were completely unaware of even though it's been right in front of your eyes and out in the open. Like I said, you really should do more actual research on this subject, as it could be a reality very soon when Biden is sworn in.
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I found this video helpful. The panic about this sounds really silly to me.


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I guess I don't see it that way. You are saying it's one world government with one currency and one set of rules. The way I see it is, we are no longer a divided world. I think we were divided before technology and social media got the the point of where it is today, where the only division we have now is geographical. I think we need to, in some cases, start doing away this this divided world and become more modernized and accepting of the global humanity as a whole because working in solos isn't going to make a dent in climate change and other issues, like pandemics (Covid, etc.). If we can't tackle global issues from a united global approach, we're only going to setup more and more of our future generations for failure and a planet that will be more and more difficult to inhabit.

So instead of one world government and "set of rules", I think it's more of a united approach, as a world, to tackle various issues, whether economic, climate, etc. and not a giant world takeover of rights and freedoms that I'm getting the vibe you view it as.

https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

THE CONTEXT
The Covid-19 crisis, and the political, economic and social disruptions it has caused, is fundamentally changing the traditional context for decision-making. The inconsistencies, inadequacies and contradictions of multiple systems –from health and financial to energy and education – are more exposed than ever amidst a global context of concern for lives, livelihoods and the planet. Leaders find themselves at a historic crossroads, managing short-term pressures against medium- and long-term uncertainties.

THE OPPORTUNITY
As we enter a unique window of opportunity to shape the recovery, this initiative will offer insights to help inform all those determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons. Drawing from the vision and vast expertise of the leaders engaged across the Forum’s communities, the Great Reset initiative has a set of dimensions to build a new social contract that honours the dignity of every human being.
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This is yet another example of how the GOP has fallen into being a party of conspiracy theories and authoritarianism. It's almost impossible to discuss any of it or reason with them. They have their own truths, their own media, their own facts, and no amount of politely linking them to actual sources and evidence can sway them. There's not much hope for fruitful discussion. Joe Biden is a secret mastermind working on "resetting" the entire world into socialism? Sure. The GOP got literally the most moderate Dem candidate as their opponent, and they still accuse him of being a secret socialist. It's tiresome.

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It sounds like an idea that some have turned into a conspiracy theory... as always.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
The Great Reset is a proposal by the World Economic Forum (WEF) to rebuild the economy sustainably following the COVID-19 pandemic. It was unveiled in May 2020 by the United Kingdom's Prince Charles and WEF director Klaus Schwab.[1][2] It seeks to improve capitalism by making investments more geared toward mutual progress and focusing more on environmental initiatives. A petition in Canada to stop it gained 80,000 signatures in less than 72 hours. A conspiracy theory has spread in response, claiming it will be used to bring in a supposed New World Order.[2][3]

The conspiracy theory of the Great Reset first spread following the initiative's announcement.[2] It spread in response to the plan alleging that "global financial elites" and world leaders have planned a pandemic, deliberately letting loose the coronavirus to cause the conditions that will allow a restructuring of the world's governments. It alleges that the main goals of the Great Reset are to take global political and economic control by instating a Marxist totalitarian regime and by extension, the New World Order.[2][7][18] It is claimed that such a regime would abolish personal ownership and property rights, send the military into cities, impose mandatory vaccination, and create isolation camps for people who resist.

Pfft

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Breaking - powerful people with the world's best interests at heart want to move society in an orderly direction and probably have the ability to do so.

The ignorant call it a conspiracy, most call it reality.

Not sure if you've heard of these guys but they get labelled puppet masters as well, rightly or wrongly (I'd suggest mostly wrongly but I'm sure they've tried to move society in a direction I don't agree with..):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting

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2020- The year of Covid and seemingly endless conspiracy theories.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:48 pm
This is yet another example of how the GOP has fallen into being a party of conspiracy theories and authoritarianism. It's almost impossible to discuss any of it or reason with them. They have their own truths, their own media, their own facts, and no amount of politely linking them to actual sources and evidence can sway them. There's not much hope for fruitful discussion. Joe Biden is a secret mastermind working on "resetting" the entire world into socialism? Sure. The GOP got literally the most moderate Dem candidate as their opponent, and they still accuse him of being a secret socialist. It's tiresome.
Well Marty, I never claimed that, and no one is that I know of. So I reject this silly lie you are trying to paint. I think Biden is a sad sick puppet that is deteriorating. The way you guys condescendingly post on here is tiresome too. So touche'. I mean, have you actually looked into this? If you really haven't spent much time actually looking into it, besides trying to find only the lying articles that try to debunk it with lies, than what's the point? There are some people that have done a great deal of research on it, but instead you just throw insults. What f'n authoritarian things have the Reps done, other than Governor DeWine in Ohio and his silly curfews? You're throwing stones when Dems live in glass houses over conspiracy theories and authoritarianism.
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What f'n authoritarian things have the Reps done
Any time you are beholden to an authority figure simply because they are in charge, and support them regardless of right or wrong, you are supporting authoritarian rule. Every time Trump asked people for loyalty over what their job is, or what their constituents want, that was him exercising authoritarian rule.

This notion that enforcing public hygiene/distancing to prevent the spread of a global pandemic is not authoritarian rule, unless you think requiring prequiring people to drive on the right side of the road, or stop at red lights, or not drive on the sidewalk is also authoritarian rule.

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Nodack wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:14 pm
It sounds like an idea that some have turned into a conspiracy theory... as always.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
The Great Reset is a proposal by the World Economic Forum (WEF) to rebuild the economy sustainably following the COVID-19 pandemic. It was unveiled in May 2020 by the United Kingdom's Prince Charles and WEF director Klaus Schwab.[1][2] It seeks to improve capitalism by making investments more geared toward mutual progress and focusing more on environmental initiatives. A petition in Canada to stop it gained 80,000 signatures in less than 72 hours. A conspiracy theory has spread in response, claiming it will be used to bring in a supposed New World Order.[2][3]

The conspiracy theory of the Great Reset first spread following the initiative's announcement.[2] It spread in response to the plan alleging that "global financial elites" and world leaders have planned a pandemic, deliberately letting loose the coronavirus to cause the conditions that will allow a restructuring of the world's governments. It alleges that the main goals of the Great Reset are to take global political and economic control by instating a Marxist totalitarian regime and by extension, the New World Order.[2][7][18] It is claimed that such a regime would abolish personal ownership and property rights, send the military into cities, impose mandatory vaccination, and create isolation camps for people who resist.

Pfft
Nodack, they actually said this and it was in their nice little video that the WEF released. As soon as it got pushback, they took it down. Trump was their claimed last hurdle to get the USA. This is not my claim or "conspiracy theorist" claims, it's coming out of their own mouths.
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In2ition wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:37 pm
Nodack wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:14 pm
It sounds like an idea that some have turned into a conspiracy theory... as always.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
The Great Reset is a proposal by the World Economic Forum (WEF) to rebuild the economy sustainably following the COVID-19 pandemic. It was unveiled in May 2020 by the United Kingdom's Prince Charles and WEF director Klaus Schwab.[1][2] It seeks to improve capitalism by making investments more geared toward mutual progress and focusing more on environmental initiatives. A petition in Canada to stop it gained 80,000 signatures in less than 72 hours. A conspiracy theory has spread in response, claiming it will be used to bring in a supposed New World Order.[2][3]

The conspiracy theory of the Great Reset first spread following the initiative's announcement.[2] It spread in response to the plan alleging that "global financial elites" and world leaders have planned a pandemic, deliberately letting loose the coronavirus to cause the conditions that will allow a restructuring of the world's governments. It alleges that the main goals of the Great Reset are to take global political and economic control by instating a Marxist totalitarian regime and by extension, the New World Order.[2][7][18] It is claimed that such a regime would abolish personal ownership and property rights, send the military into cities, impose mandatory vaccination, and create isolation camps for people who resist.

Pfft
Nodack, they actually said this and it was in their nice little video that the WEF released. As soon as it got pushback, they took it down. Trump was their claimed last hurdle to get the USA. This is not my claim or "conspiracy theorist" claims, it's coming out of their own mouths.
do you have any evidence of this, or is it just something you read on twitter? I would love to see this video. The internet is forever, and nothing is ever truly deleted, so it has to be somewhere. I want to see them say they will be sending the military into cities to abolish person ownership and build concentration camps.

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Indy wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:32 pm
What f'n authoritarian things have the Reps done
Any time you are beholden to an authority figure simply because they are in charge, and support them regardless of right or wrong, you are supporting authoritarian rule. Every time Trump asked people for loyalty over what their job is, or what their constituents want, that was him exercising authoritarian rule.

This notion that enforcing public hygiene/distancing to prevent the spread of a global pandemic is not authoritarian rule, unless you think requiring prequiring people to drive on the right side of the road, or stop at red lights, or not drive on the sidewalk is also authoritarian rule.
When you're forcing people to close their only source of income without actual scientific facts to back it up, then changing your mind and making it worse over and over, you are authoritarian. People complied and it only got worse and more authoritarian as time went on.
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Indy wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:42 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:37 pm
Nodack wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:14 pm
It sounds like an idea that some have turned into a conspiracy theory... as always.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
The Great Reset is a proposal by the World Economic Forum (WEF) to rebuild the economy sustainably following the COVID-19 pandemic. It was unveiled in May 2020 by the United Kingdom's Prince Charles and WEF director Klaus Schwab.[1][2] It seeks to improve capitalism by making investments more geared toward mutual progress and focusing more on environmental initiatives. A petition in Canada to stop it gained 80,000 signatures in less than 72 hours. A conspiracy theory has spread in response, claiming it will be used to bring in a supposed New World Order.[2][3]

The conspiracy theory of the Great Reset first spread following the initiative's announcement.[2] It spread in response to the plan alleging that "global financial elites" and world leaders have planned a pandemic, deliberately letting loose the coronavirus to cause the conditions that will allow a restructuring of the world's governments. It alleges that the main goals of the Great Reset are to take global political and economic control by instating a Marxist totalitarian regime and by extension, the New World Order.[2][7][18] It is claimed that such a regime would abolish personal ownership and property rights, send the military into cities, impose mandatory vaccination, and create isolation camps for people who resist.

Pfft
Nodack, they actually said this and it was in their nice little video that the WEF released. As soon as it got pushback, they took it down. Trump was their claimed last hurdle to get the USA. This is not my claim or "conspiracy theorist" claims, it's coming out of their own mouths.
do you have any evidence of this, or is it just something you read on twitter? I would love to see this video. The internet is forever, and nothing is ever truly deleted, so it has to be somewhere. I want to see them say they will be sending the military into cities to abolish person ownership and build concentration camps.
Did you actually watch anything I posted? I don't give a rat's behind if you believe me or not. I only wanted your views on this.
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You keep coming back to not having facts to back up that masks work and distancing works and not being around people is a good way to slow the spread of airborne communicable diseases. It is mind numbing that you keep ignoring the facts that are out there. You think surgeons wear masks during 12 hour surgeries for fun? You think the science behind disease transmission is fake?

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In2ition wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:46 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:42 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:37 pm
Nodack wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:14 pm
It sounds like an idea that some have turned into a conspiracy theory... as always.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
The Great Reset is a proposal by the World Economic Forum (WEF) to rebuild the economy sustainably following the COVID-19 pandemic. It was unveiled in May 2020 by the United Kingdom's Prince Charles and WEF director Klaus Schwab.[1][2] It seeks to improve capitalism by making investments more geared toward mutual progress and focusing more on environmental initiatives. A petition in Canada to stop it gained 80,000 signatures in less than 72 hours. A conspiracy theory has spread in response, claiming it will be used to bring in a supposed New World Order.[2][3]

The conspiracy theory of the Great Reset first spread following the initiative's announcement.[2] It spread in response to the plan alleging that "global financial elites" and world leaders have planned a pandemic, deliberately letting loose the coronavirus to cause the conditions that will allow a restructuring of the world's governments. It alleges that the main goals of the Great Reset are to take global political and economic control by instating a Marxist totalitarian regime and by extension, the New World Order.[2][7][18] It is claimed that such a regime would abolish personal ownership and property rights, send the military into cities, impose mandatory vaccination, and create isolation camps for people who resist.

Pfft
Nodack, they actually said this and it was in their nice little video that the WEF released. As soon as it got pushback, they took it down. Trump was their claimed last hurdle to get the USA. This is not my claim or "conspiracy theorist" claims, it's coming out of their own mouths.
do you have any evidence of this, or is it just something you read on twitter? I would love to see this video. The internet is forever, and nothing is ever truly deleted, so it has to be somewhere. I want to see them say they will be sending the military into cities to abolish person ownership and build concentration camps.
Did you actually watch anything I posted? I don't give a rat's behind if you believe me or not. I only wanted your views on this.
So you make baseless claims and get huffy when people ask you for proof? Sharing a video of someone saying there is a video of someone saying this happened is not proof of it happening.

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Indy wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:47 pm
You keep coming back to not having facts to back up that masks work and distancing works and not being around people is a good way to slow the spread of airborne communicable diseases. It is mind numbing that you keep ignoring the facts that are out there. You think surgeons wear masks during 12 hour surgeries for fun? You think the science behind disease transmission is fake?
I gave you the biggest study on this subject out of Denmark, but you forgot that? Oh yeah, it's totally done for fun by :roll: That's exactly the argument I've made over and over, Chief.
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In2ition wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:56 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:47 pm
You keep coming back to not having facts to back up that masks work and distancing works and not being around people is a good way to slow the spread of airborne communicable diseases. It is mind numbing that you keep ignoring the facts that are out there. You think surgeons wear masks during 12 hour surgeries for fun? You think the science behind disease transmission is fake?
I gave you the biggest study on this subject out of Denmark, but you forgot that? Oh yeah, it's totally done for fun by :roll: That's exactly the argument I've made over and over, Chief.
Forgot? Several people pointed out the issues with the denmark study. We literally have a hundred plus years of science on communicable airborne diseases and ways to prevent them. This is like arguing against plate tectonics or evolution.

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It’s just one more conspiracy theory to add to the plethora I have seen from the right since Trump was elected. I don’t need to debate this anymore.

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