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I'm pretty sure he doesn't live in a basement and I'm pretty sure he isn't kept somewhere and only let out for rare appearances.
Haha, sure, that part was sarcasm about the basement, but it's not like we really hear from him much. He hasn't had a formal press conference in 48 days, which would be the longest for any President in over 100 yrs. It's hard to call that normal.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:48 pmI'm pretty sure he doesn't live in a basement and I'm pretty sure he isn't kept somewhere and only let out for rare appearances.
No idea where you get these crazy ideas from.
How I miss the days of Trump, the most normal president ever .. Not sure I entirely agree with the $1.9t bill but the same can be said for the Trump $1.7t tax cuts to the 1% - it's a hostage situation sadly so I can't blame the D's.In2ition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:53 pmHaha, sure, that part was sarcasm about the basement, but it's not like we really hear from him much. He hasn't had a formal press conference in 48 days, which would be the longest for any President in over 100 yrs. It's hard to call that normal.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:48 pmI'm pretty sure he doesn't live in a basement and I'm pretty sure he isn't kept somewhere and only let out for rare appearances.
No idea where you get these crazy ideas from.
Take Trump out of the equation and start with Obama back to Wilson, it's still not 'normal'. Not that it's all bad, it's just not what we see, especially in this age of communication.3rdside wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:15 pmHow I miss the days of Trump, the most normal president ever .. Not sure I entirely agree with the $1.9t bill but the same can be said for the Trump $1.7t tax cuts to the 1% - it's a hostage situation sadly so I can't blame the D's.In2ition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:53 pmHaha, sure, that part was sarcasm about the basement, but it's not like we really hear from him much. He hasn't had a formal press conference in 48 days, which would be the longest for any President in over 100 yrs. It's hard to call that normal.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:48 pmI'm pretty sure he doesn't live in a basement and I'm pretty sure he isn't kept somewhere and only let out for rare appearances.
No idea where you get these crazy ideas from.
The Trump organization went over a year without a formal press briefing.In2ition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:23 pmTake Trump out of the equation and start with Obama back to Wilson, it's still not 'normal'. Not that it's all bad, it's just not what we see, especially in this age of communication.3rdside wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:15 pmHow I miss the days of Trump, the most normal president ever .. Not sure I entirely agree with the $1.9t bill but the same can be said for the Trump $1.7t tax cuts to the 1% - it's a hostage situation sadly so I can't blame the D's.In2ition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:53 pmHaha, sure, that part was sarcasm about the basement, but it's not like we really hear from him much. He hasn't had a formal press conference in 48 days, which would be the longest for any President in over 100 yrs. It's hard to call that normal.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:48 pmI'm pretty sure he doesn't live in a basement and I'm pretty sure he isn't kept somewhere and only let out for rare appearances.
No idea where you get these crazy ideas from.
What do you mean about it being a hostage situation?
After he was inaugurated it took him a yr to have a press briefing?Indy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:30 pmThe Trump organization went over a year without a formal press briefing.In2ition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:23 pmTake Trump out of the equation and start with Obama back to Wilson, it's still not 'normal'. Not that it's all bad, it's just not what we see, especially in this age of communication.3rdside wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:15 pmHow I miss the days of Trump, the most normal president ever .. Not sure I entirely agree with the $1.9t bill but the same can be said for the Trump $1.7t tax cuts to the 1% - it's a hostage situation sadly so I can't blame the D's.In2ition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:53 pmHaha, sure, that part was sarcasm about the basement, but it's not like we really hear from him much. He hasn't had a formal press conference in 48 days, which would be the longest for any President in over 100 yrs. It's hard to call that normal.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:48 pm
I'm pretty sure he doesn't live in a basement and I'm pretty sure he isn't kept somewhere and only let out for rare appearances.
No idea where you get these crazy ideas from.
What do you mean about it being a hostage situation?
Somebody hasn't been paying attention.In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:27 amAfter he was inaugurated it took him a yr to have a press briefing?Indy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:30 pmThe Trump organization went over a year without a formal press briefing.In2ition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:23 pmTake Trump out of the equation and start with Obama back to Wilson, it's still not 'normal'. Not that it's all bad, it's just not what we see, especially in this age of communication.
What do you mean about it being a hostage situation?
The debt is a huge problem. I hope you realize that your GOP bears the responsibility for the lion's share of it. Reagan completely ballooned it with his trickle-down voodoo nonsense. Clinton miraculously balanced the budget (almost unheard of in these days), but then Bush went right back into tax cuts and huge spending, so much so that he helped collapse the entire economy. Obama managed to save it, miraculously, and hand a healthy economy to Trump. Trump promptly gave trillions of tax cuts to the rich.
I'm not going to argue that it wasn't made much worse during the Reagan and both Bush's yrs, nor that it got bigger during Trump's term. Sure, we could say that they hold the lion's share of the responsibility. It's just gotten to the point that after all the crazy pork bloated bills that were termed to be financial help to the people, were barely that. When only 9% of $1.9 trillion is going to the people that need the stimulus, can we in all honesty call it an "Economic Stimulus" bill? If we're being totally honest, it should be called the "bailouts, handouts, payoffs and money eventually laundered back to the politicians, with a pittance to the people" bill or the "Let them eat cake" bill.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:57 amThe debt is a huge problem. I hope you realize that your GOP bears the responsibility for the lion's share of it. Reagan completely ballooned it with his trickle-down voodoo nonsense. Clinton miraculously balanced the budget (almost unheard of in these days), but then Bush went right back into tax cuts and huge spending, so much so that he helped collapse the entire economy. Obama managed to save it, miraculously, and hand a healthy economy to Trump. Trump promptly gave trillions of tax cuts to the rich.
This is the cycle. Democrats, though they do favor big government, compensate for that by gathering more taxes to pay for services. The GOP has realized that they can just cut taxes but still spend into a huge deficit and that they won't face any real immediate consequences for this. And so we keep getting deeper and deeper into the hole.
FTFY.In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:06 pmI'm not going to argue that it wasn't made much worse during the Reagan and both Bush's yrs, nor that it got bigger during Trump's term. Sure, we absolutely must say they hold the lion's share of the responsibility. It's just gotten to the point that after all the crazy pork bloated bills that were termed to be financial help to the people, were barely that. When only 9% of $1.9 trillion is going to the people that need the stimulus, can we in all honesty call it an "Economic Stimulus" bill? If we're being totally honest, it should be called the "bailouts, handouts, payoffs and money eventually laundered back to the politicians, with a pittance to the people" bill or the "Let them eat cake" bill.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:57 amThe debt is a huge problem. I hope you realize that your GOP bears the responsibility for the lion's share of it. Reagan completely ballooned it with his trickle-down voodoo nonsense. Clinton miraculously balanced the budget (almost unheard of in these days), but then Bush went right back into tax cuts and huge spending, so much so that he helped collapse the entire economy. Obama managed to save it, miraculously, and hand a healthy economy to Trump. Trump promptly gave trillions of tax cuts to the rich.
This is the cycle. Democrats, though they do favor big government, compensate for that by gathering more taxes to pay for services. The GOP has realized that they can just cut taxes but still spend into a huge deficit and that they won't face any real immediate consequences for this. And so we keep getting deeper and deeper into the hole.
Haha.3rdside wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:16 pmFTFY.In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:06 pmI'm not going to argue that it wasn't made much worse during the Reagan and both Bush's yrs, nor that it got bigger during Trump's term. Sure, we absolutely must say they hold the lion's share of the responsibility. It's just gotten to the point that after all the crazy pork bloated bills that were termed to be financial help to the people, were barely that. When only 9% of $1.9 trillion is going to the people that need the stimulus, can we in all honesty call it an "Economic Stimulus" bill? If we're being totally honest, it should be called the "bailouts, handouts, payoffs and money eventually laundered back to the politicians, with a pittance to the people" bill or the "Let them eat cake" bill.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:57 amThe debt is a huge problem. I hope you realize that your GOP bears the responsibility for the lion's share of it. Reagan completely ballooned it with his trickle-down voodoo nonsense. Clinton miraculously balanced the budget (almost unheard of in these days), but then Bush went right back into tax cuts and huge spending, so much so that he helped collapse the entire economy. Obama managed to save it, miraculously, and hand a healthy economy to Trump. Trump promptly gave trillions of tax cuts to the rich.
This is the cycle. Democrats, though they do favor big government, compensate for that by gathering more taxes to pay for services. The GOP has realized that they can just cut taxes but still spend into a huge deficit and that they won't face any real immediate consequences for this. And so we keep getting deeper and deeper into the hole.
And laundered back to the politicians .. do you have any evidence this will happen?
Well, that's the word that I'm hearing. If anyone had absolute proof and was handed over to the DOJ with interest in prosecuting it, we would see it. It's a bit of conjecture to say that, but a concrete belief by a lot of people around Washington that this is done though.3rdside wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:41 pmYou've lost me - you make a huge claim, saying it's a corrupt bill, but can't give one serious explanation of how it's corrupt?
As for the debt bubble, I can't absolve Bill Clinton in the whole scheme of things so I'll roll back the 'absolutely must' comment a little..