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If you are of the opinion that Dr. Fauci has ulterior motives for his work on infection diseases over the last ~60 years of his life, and his primary purpose isn't to help people, then you are not looking at things with a clear perspective.

That could be, tbh. I'll work on it.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/log ... -Authority

Appeal to Authority
argumentum ad verecundiam

Description: Insisting that a claim is true simply because a valid authority or expert on the issue said it was true, without any other supporting evidence offered.

"Appeal to authority" is a logical fallacy only when one *blindly* trusts an authority figure or expert. Listening to someone like Dr. Fauci is not an appeal to authority fallacy because nobody is blindly trusting Fauci's word simply because he is a cool badass Doctor Man. He has evidence, scientific evidence, on his side. He cites that evidence when he speaks. And we have access to much of that evidence ourselves, so we can verify and confirm the veracity of what he says.

The real problem right now is folks who blindly *reject* the opinion of experts, despite it being presented with plenty of supporting evidence. It is naive and wrong to elevate random Twitter people and random biased web sites as though their ideas (generally unsupported by evidence) were equally valid as those presented by experts with evidence.

Until someone proves they know more about infectious diseases than Fauci and the CDC and can prove Fauci and the CDC are secretly plotting our demise along with every other US institution the right has attacked as evil, I will continue to take their advice over the right wing noise.

Interesting thread about a possible endgame plan for No Labels. They may be trying to force a contingent election where no candidate wins 270 EVs.

Which would be in Trump's favor, right?

Is there actually a 3rd candidate that could win a state right now and make this happen? How much support is RFK getting?

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:46 pm

Which would be in Trump's favor, right?

Idk if that would be in Trump's favor, tbh.

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:07 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:46 pm

Which would be in Trump's favor, right?

Idk if that would be in Trump's favor, tbh.

How could it not be? The House has more Reps than Dems, right?

I guess the question would be if they are Trump fans because they have to be or because they want to be. Once you take it out of the hands of the people, they could jump behind a more traditional Republican candidate…is there any restriction on who they vote for? Does it have to be someone on the ballot?

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:53 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:07 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:46 pm

Which would be in Trump's favor, right?

Idk if that would be in Trump's favor, tbh.

How could it not be? The House has more Reps than Dems, right?

I believe there are Reps who may not vote for the Rep candidate if it's Trump.

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:34 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:53 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:07 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:46 pm

Which would be in Trump's favor, right?

Idk if that would be in Trump's favor, tbh.

How could it not be? The House has more Reps than Dems, right?

I believe there are Reps who may not vote for the Rep candidate if it's Trump.

I find that hard to believe. I thought they all got weeded out.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:59 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:34 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:53 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:07 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:46 pm

Which would be in Trump's favor, right?

Idk if that would be in Trump's favor, tbh.

How could it not be? The House has more Reps than Dems, right?

I believe there are Reps who may not vote for the Rep candidate if it's Trump.

I find that hard to believe. I thought they all got weeded out.

Comparing them to weeds is very appropriate.

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:55 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:59 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:34 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:53 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:07 pm

Idk if that would be in Trump's favor, tbh.

How could it not be? The House has more Reps than Dems, right?

I believe there are Reps who may not vote for the Rep candidate if it's Trump.

I find that hard to believe. I thought they all got weeded out.

Comparing them to weeds is very appropriate.

Totally disagree. Those were the good ones. The ones I respected.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:21 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:55 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:59 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:34 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:53 pm

How could it not be? The House has more Reps than Dems, right?

I believe there are Reps who may not vote for the Rep candidate if it's Trump.

I find that hard to believe. I thought they all got weeded out.

Comparing them to weeds is very appropriate.

Totally disagree. Those were the good ones. The ones I respected.

Then go ahead and vote them into office in the Democratic party. Their constituents thought differently, and felt they didn't represent them or their interests by a wide margin.

This is why IMO Biden is going to win, barring a shocking twist. Simply put, we are much better off in America today than we were 4 years ago. Some of that is owed to Trump's failings and Biden's successes; some of it is random chance or good/bad luck. But it's just a fact. 4 years ago was a horrible time for this country, and right now things are generally much more normal and prosperous.

I agree that we are better off…no question…but it would be interesting to see how much of that is just Covid. Granted Trump didn’t handle Covid all that well, but it’s definitely a curve ball thrown that Biden didn’t have to deal with.

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Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:18 am

I agree that we are better off…no question…but it would be interesting to see how much of that is just Covid. Granted Trump didn’t handle Covid all that well, but it’s definitely a curve ball thrown that Biden didn’t have to deal with.

I get what you're saying; COVID wasn't Trump's fault, and not everything Trump did about COVID was bad (kudos to him for fast-tracking vaccine development, which he and his party later disavow, sigh). But overall Trump brutally mismanaged COVID, leading to countless American deaths. And moreover, COVID wasn't done or gone when Biden took over. It took a lot of work during Biden's presidency to get things back to normal. Biden didn't just show up and sit back and watch everything fix itself.

True…I guess I was mostly comparing 2024 to 2020…Biden isn’t dealing with a pandemic right now, but he was in 2021 when he took office

Every President has to deal with what cards are given them. Republicans think life was much better four years ago under Trump. Democrats think life is much better now four years later under Biden. I was disgusted by pretty much every thing Trump did and said and we had Covid, which shut down the planet. Covid is pretty much a thing of the past now. Inflation happened because the economy came roaring back and the supply chain was way behind after being shut down for the most part by Covid. Can’t blame Trump for Covid and you can’t blame Biden for the supply problems around the world imo. Can’t really give much credit or blame for gas prices since Presidents have almost zero control other than begging OPEC to increase production. Our production has never been higher ever. Putin started the war with Ukraine, not Biden or Trump. Hamas attacked Israel and Israel retaliated, not Trump or Biden. Biden caught in the middle in Israel. Take any side and half the country hates you for it. Biden has tried to split the difference.