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Good for them. I hope they enjoy a second Trump term.
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And this is why I sometimes think both sides deserve each other.
Israel plans to build 3,300 new settlement homes. It says it’s a response to a Palestinian attack
https://apnews.com/article/israel-settl ... 9f20db30e2
Israel plans to build more than 3,300 new homes in settlements in the Israeli-occupied West Bank in response to a fatal Palestinian shooting attack, a senior Cabinet minister said. The decision drew an angry response from the U.S. at a time of growing tensions over the course of Israel’s war on Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
“The serious attack on Ma’ale Adumim must have a determined security response but also a settlement response,” Smotrich wrote on X, formerly Twitter. “Our enemies know that any harm to us will lead to more construction and more development and more of our hold all over the country.”
Israel plans to build 3,300 new settlement homes. It says it’s a response to a Palestinian attack
https://apnews.com/article/israel-settl ... 9f20db30e2
Israel plans to build more than 3,300 new homes in settlements in the Israeli-occupied West Bank in response to a fatal Palestinian shooting attack, a senior Cabinet minister said. The decision drew an angry response from the U.S. at a time of growing tensions over the course of Israel’s war on Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
“The serious attack on Ma’ale Adumim must have a determined security response but also a settlement response,” Smotrich wrote on X, formerly Twitter. “Our enemies know that any harm to us will lead to more construction and more development and more of our hold all over the country.”
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This is Netanyahu’s plan for a postwar Gaza. I support Israel’s right to defense. That’s where we part ways. I don’t agree with them taking land. I don’t agree with Israel being the government of Gaza. Then again, what then? It is very complicated. I am glad I am not Biden on this.
Netanyahu seeks open-ended control over security and civilian affairs in Gaza in new postwar plan
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas ... ca460a75fb
A long-awaited postwar plan by Israel’s prime minister shows that his government seeks open-ended control over security and civilian affairs in the Gaza Strip. That was swiftly rejected Friday by Palestinian leaders and runs counter to Washington’s vision for the war-ravaged enclave.
Deep disagreements over Gaza’s future have led to increasingly public friction between Israel and the United States, its closest ally. The Biden administration seeks eventual Palestinian governance in Gaza and the Israeli-occupied West Bank as a precursor to Palestinian statehood, an outcome vehemently opposed by Netanyahu and his right-wing government. Netanyahu’s plan envisions hand-picked Palestinians administering Gaza.
Netanyahu seeks open-ended control over security and civilian affairs in Gaza in new postwar plan
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas ... ca460a75fb
A long-awaited postwar plan by Israel’s prime minister shows that his government seeks open-ended control over security and civilian affairs in the Gaza Strip. That was swiftly rejected Friday by Palestinian leaders and runs counter to Washington’s vision for the war-ravaged enclave.
Deep disagreements over Gaza’s future have led to increasingly public friction between Israel and the United States, its closest ally. The Biden administration seeks eventual Palestinian governance in Gaza and the Israeli-occupied West Bank as a precursor to Palestinian statehood, an outcome vehemently opposed by Netanyahu and his right-wing government. Netanyahu’s plan envisions hand-picked Palestinians administering Gaza.
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That was awesome! Whether you like Stewart or Maher or not, I really enjoy those two tackling politics and bringing in diverse people to talk about it. It’s sort of like here but a little more sane.
I have been harping on nobody having any plan on how to solve the Palestinian/Israel conflict. The daily show brought up a plan I think I have heard of that seems sort of plausible and I guess it’s been brought up years before and was shot down. The two state solution with an Arab peacekeeping buffer between the two sides. That sounds plausible and logical. So obviously that plan is dead in the water.
I have been harping on nobody having any plan on how to solve the Palestinian/Israel conflict. The daily show brought up a plan I think I have heard of that seems sort of plausible and I guess it’s been brought up years before and was shot down. The two state solution with an Arab peacekeeping buffer between the two sides. That sounds plausible and logical. So obviously that plan is dead in the water.
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The IDF opens fire on helpless Palestinians as they scramble for scraps of food, killing at least 100. Great job eliminating those evil Hamas terrorists! I bet they were hiding under the scraps of bread. Get 'em, boys!
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This is pretty disgusting from Israel. I don’t know how anyone is supporting this. They clearly don’t just want to eradicate Hamas, they want to eradicate all Palestinians.
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The whole thing is sick and sad. It's horrible. There is blame on all sides. Most on Hamas for starting it but Israel is also using it as cover to do horrible things. And do you think Hamas wishes they hadn't started this whole mess? Not in the least. This is probably their desired results to make the Palestinian people martyrs against their will. Between this and Russia/Ukraine, the world is at a very low point in its history.
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The intelligence (and supporting video) show that Israeli tanks were escorting the aid trucks when the convoy was rushed by gunmen (you can guess who). Most of the causalities were a result of the stampede or being hit by the aid trucks that were trying to escape.
Awful situation. Not a massacre by the Israeli army that Hamas would have you believe.
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This is an incredibly misleading headline which makes it seem like Israel used aid trucks as bait to massacre civilians.
The intelligence (and supporting video) show that Israeli tanks were escorting the aid trucks when the convoy was rushed by gunmen (you can guess who). Most of the causalities were a result of the stampede or being hit by the aid trucks that were trying to escape.
Awful situation. Not a massacre by the Israeli army that Hamas would have you believe.
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Like everything there are multiple sides to every story. One story says the IDF just opened fire on civilians because they could. Another says tanks were escorting the aid trucks when they were overwhelmed by thousands of people trying to get at the food. People were run over. Shots were fired. Others say it was an attack by Hamas and the IDF just responded to that and bystanders were hit in the commotion.
I was just reading where the US is thinking of air dropping in aid. I am not sure if Israel is part of that or if the US is even asking Israel.
I was just reading where the US is thinking of air dropping in aid. I am not sure if Israel is part of that or if the US is even asking Israel.
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A wide spectrum of people blame Israeli gunfire. It wasn't Hamas.
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Latest death tolls. Over 25k dead, with much of the blood on US hands.
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Saudi-led Arabs push blueprint for Palestine state as war rages
Read more at: https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle ... 59839.html
Source - Stars and Stripes
Washington and Riyadh are working on what they see as a more realistic version of the plan. It seeks to use the prospect of Saudi Arabia recognizing Israel to extract concessions from the Jewish state on Palestinian statehood, according to a person familiar with US thinking.
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken told his Saudi and UAE counterparts on Tuesday that Washington wants a “sustained peace through the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with security guarantees for Israel.”
The war is providing a “huge amount of oxygen” to those who don’t believe in Arab-Jewish coexistence and those who want to recruit young people into “extremist ideologies and acts of terror,” said Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal Bin Farhan. The continuation of the war is “a national security issue for us in the region and beyond.”
Saudi Arabia believes Palestinian statehood is a “reasonable” price for Israel to pay in exchange for diplomatic relations with Riyadh and it’s up to the US to convince the Jewish state, Robert Satloff, executive director of the Washington Institute think tank, said last week following a trip to the region. The problem is that most Arab states do not seem to appreciate how much Oct. 7 changed Israel, with the population caught up in a wave of wartime patriotism and still traumatized by Hamas’ incursion, he added. “For the vast majority of Israelis, even talking about the two-state solution is viewed as bizarre, even perverse,” said Satloff.
Read more at: https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle ... 59839.html
Source - Stars and Stripes
Washington and Riyadh are working on what they see as a more realistic version of the plan. It seeks to use the prospect of Saudi Arabia recognizing Israel to extract concessions from the Jewish state on Palestinian statehood, according to a person familiar with US thinking.
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken told his Saudi and UAE counterparts on Tuesday that Washington wants a “sustained peace through the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with security guarantees for Israel.”
The war is providing a “huge amount of oxygen” to those who don’t believe in Arab-Jewish coexistence and those who want to recruit young people into “extremist ideologies and acts of terror,” said Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal Bin Farhan. The continuation of the war is “a national security issue for us in the region and beyond.”
Saudi Arabia believes Palestinian statehood is a “reasonable” price for Israel to pay in exchange for diplomatic relations with Riyadh and it’s up to the US to convince the Jewish state, Robert Satloff, executive director of the Washington Institute think tank, said last week following a trip to the region. The problem is that most Arab states do not seem to appreciate how much Oct. 7 changed Israel, with the population caught up in a wave of wartime patriotism and still traumatized by Hamas’ incursion, he added. “For the vast majority of Israelis, even talking about the two-state solution is viewed as bizarre, even perverse,” said Satloff.
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We told Russia that targeting civilians was a war crime and to stop it.
We supplied weapons to Israel and told them to be careful. Some people say we have blood on our hands for that.
We supplied weapons to Israel and told them to be careful. Some people say we have blood on our hands for that.
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We are providing much of the weapons and money currently being used to commit the genocide.
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I thought a little historical perspective would be good.
Arab-Israeli wars summary
Learn about the causes and consequences of the Arab-Israeli wars
https://www.britannica.com/summary/Arab-Israeli-wars
Arab-Israeli wars, Military conflicts fought between various Arab countries and Israel in 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and 2006. The first war (1948–49) began when Israel declared itself an independent state following the United Nations’ partition of Palestine and five Arab countries—Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria—attacked Israel. The conflict ended with Israel controlling all of the Negev up to the former Egypt-Palestine frontier, except for the Gaza Strip. The 1956 Suez Crisis began after Egypt nationalized the Suez Canal. A French, British, and Israeli coalition attacked Egypt and occupied the canal zone but soon withdrew under international pressure. The Six-Day War of 1967 began when, in response to Arab neighbors’ apparent mobilization for war, Israel attacked and destroyed Egypt’s and Syria’s air forces. Israel also defeated Jordanian attacks. The war ended with Israel in control of the Gaza Strip, the Sinai Peninsula, the West Bank, and Jerusalem. Egypt and Syria attacked Israel in 1973 (the Yom Kippur War), and fighting continued for several weeks. In 1979 Egypt made peace with Israel, formally ending the 30-year state of war between the two countries. In 1982 Israel invaded Lebanon in order to expel the Palestine Liberation Organization from its bases there. Israel withdrew from Lebanon by 1985. In 2006 Hezbollah launched an operation against Israel, and a month-long war resulted.
Arab-Israeli wars summary
Learn about the causes and consequences of the Arab-Israeli wars
https://www.britannica.com/summary/Arab-Israeli-wars
Arab-Israeli wars, Military conflicts fought between various Arab countries and Israel in 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and 2006. The first war (1948–49) began when Israel declared itself an independent state following the United Nations’ partition of Palestine and five Arab countries—Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria—attacked Israel. The conflict ended with Israel controlling all of the Negev up to the former Egypt-Palestine frontier, except for the Gaza Strip. The 1956 Suez Crisis began after Egypt nationalized the Suez Canal. A French, British, and Israeli coalition attacked Egypt and occupied the canal zone but soon withdrew under international pressure. The Six-Day War of 1967 began when, in response to Arab neighbors’ apparent mobilization for war, Israel attacked and destroyed Egypt’s and Syria’s air forces. Israel also defeated Jordanian attacks. The war ended with Israel in control of the Gaza Strip, the Sinai Peninsula, the West Bank, and Jerusalem. Egypt and Syria attacked Israel in 1973 (the Yom Kippur War), and fighting continued for several weeks. In 1979 Egypt made peace with Israel, formally ending the 30-year state of war between the two countries. In 1982 Israel invaded Lebanon in order to expel the Palestine Liberation Organization from its bases there. Israel withdrew from Lebanon by 1985. In 2006 Hezbollah launched an operation against Israel, and a month-long war resulted.
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I think it's time to restore support/funding for the UNRWA.
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