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In2ition
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Indy wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:26 am
Nodack wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:56 pm
FBI releases first secret 9/11 file: Saudi embassy official let two hijackers stay at his apartment and helped them in LA before the attack, was 'facilitator' for Al-Qaeda and distributed extremist Muslim literature
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rs-LA.html
So the only person tied to a government was a Saudi, and we decided to kill a million people in Afganistan and Iraq because oil (and especially the Bush family/admin's ties to oil).
Yeah, Bush & Cheney are war criminals that should stand trial. I would say that it was for even more than oil. The US should have never invaded Iraq or Afghanistan. It was all BS.
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Re: World Politics

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I can't think of the last time we went to war (or our pseudo-wars) where it was justified, outside of WWII.

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America learned it’s lesson twice now that nation building is a really bad idea. The “Military Industrial Complex” has learned the lesson that war is good for business and that politicians can be bought or persuaded to favor war. At least that’s what it seems like from this perspective.

Rumsfeld sent a letter to President Clinton from his think tank telling him that if he declared war on Iraq that he would have their blessing. Clinton didn’t bite. Bush jr. had a personal beef with Iraq going back to his father and was itching to finish what his father started. 9/11 was their blank check. Talk about the imminent danger from Iraq’s mobile WMD and a little fabrication of evidence and get Colin Powell to deliver the message and they were good to go.

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Should we talk about this story about Gen. / Chief of Staff Milley speaking to China? It sounds like during the transition, he met with their ambassador to reassure them we weren't planning any sort of attack. He feared that Trump was saying some inflammatory things that could lead to escalation. Was this good or bad? Did he overstep his bounds? Should he be punished?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ley-china/

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Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:28 am
Should we talk about this story about Gen. / Chief of Staff Milley speaking to China? It sounds like during the transition, he met with their ambassador to reassure them we weren't planning any sort of attack. He feared that Trump was saying some inflammatory things that could lead to escalation. Was this good or bad? Did he overstep his bounds? Should he be punished?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ley-china/
Let's just say that there's a lot more to this story than the media is publishing. Indeed, there have been stories at the New York Times and other venues that were killed at the Pentagon's request.

Regarding whether Milley should be commended or punished...would you really want someone like Trump to unleash the military upon Americans? Would it be such a bad thing for a US military officer to disobey illegal orders?

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