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Indy wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:26 am
Nodack wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:56 pm
FBI releases first secret 9/11 file: Saudi embassy official let two hijackers stay at his apartment and helped them in LA before the attack, was 'facilitator' for Al-Qaeda and distributed extremist Muslim literature
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rs-LA.html
So the only person tied to a government was a Saudi, and we decided to kill a million people in Afganistan and Iraq because oil (and especially the Bush family/admin's ties to oil).
Yeah, Bush & Cheney are war criminals that should stand trial. I would say that it was for even more than oil. The US should have never invaded Iraq or Afghanistan. It was all BS.
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I can't think of the last time we went to war (or our pseudo-wars) where it was justified, outside of WWII.

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America learned it’s lesson twice now that nation building is a really bad idea. The “Military Industrial Complex” has learned the lesson that war is good for business and that politicians can be bought or persuaded to favor war. At least that’s what it seems like from this perspective.

Rumsfeld sent a letter to President Clinton from his think tank telling him that if he declared war on Iraq that he would have their blessing. Clinton didn’t bite. Bush jr. had a personal beef with Iraq going back to his father and was itching to finish what his father started. 9/11 was their blank check. Talk about the imminent danger from Iraq’s mobile WMD and a little fabrication of evidence and get Colin Powell to deliver the message and they were good to go.

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Should we talk about this story about Gen. / Chief of Staff Milley speaking to China? It sounds like during the transition, he met with their ambassador to reassure them we weren't planning any sort of attack. He feared that Trump was saying some inflammatory things that could lead to escalation. Was this good or bad? Did he overstep his bounds? Should he be punished?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ley-china/

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Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:28 am
Should we talk about this story about Gen. / Chief of Staff Milley speaking to China? It sounds like during the transition, he met with their ambassador to reassure them we weren't planning any sort of attack. He feared that Trump was saying some inflammatory things that could lead to escalation. Was this good or bad? Did he overstep his bounds? Should he be punished?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ley-china/
Let's just say that there's a lot more to this story than the media is publishing. Indeed, there have been stories at the New York Times and other venues that were killed at the Pentagon's request.

Regarding whether Milley should be commended or punished...would you really want someone like Trump to unleash the military upon Americans? Would it be such a bad thing for a US military officer to disobey illegal orders?

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I would give him a medal.

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Nodack wrote:
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I would give him a medal.
Yeah. And we have a history of this behavior when we have an unstable sociopathic narcissist as president.

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I wanted to put this in new tech but, it’s a definitely a world politics story too.



The Scientist and the A.I.-Assisted, Remote-Control Killer Robot
https://dnyuz.com/2021/09/18/the-scient ... ler-robot/
Since 2004, when the Israeli government ordered its foreign intelligence agency, the Mossad, to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, the agency had been carrying out a campaign of sabotage and cyberattacks on Iran’s nuclear fuel enrichment facilities. It was also methodically picking off the experts thought to be leading Iran’s nuclear weapons program.

Since 2007, its agents had assassinated five Iranian nuclear scientists and wounded another. Most of the scientists worked directly for Mr. Fakhrizadeh (pronounced fah-KREE-zah-deh) on what Israeli intelligence officials said was a covert program to build a nuclear warhead, including overcoming the substantial technical challenges of making one small enough to fit atop one of Iran’s long-range missiles.

Israeli agents had also killed the Iranian general in charge of missile development and 16 members of his team.

But the man Israel said led the bomb program was elusive.

Iranian agents working for the Mossad had parked a blue Nissan Zamyad pickup truck on the side of the road connecting Absard to the main highway. The spot was on a slight elevation with a view of approaching vehicles. Hidden beneath tarpaulins and decoy construction material in the truck bed was a 7.62-mm sniper machine gun.

Around 1 p.m., the hit team received a signal that Mr. Fakhrizadeh, his wife and a team of armed guards in escort cars were about to leave for Absard, where many of Iran’s elite have second homes and vacation villas.

The assassin, a skilled sniper, took up his position, calibrated the gun sights, cocked the weapon and lightly touched the trigger.

He was nowhere near Absard, however. He was peering into a computer screen at an undisclosed location thousands of miles away. The entire hit squad had already left Iran.

The machine gun fired a burst of bullets, hitting the front of the car below the windshield. It is not clear if these shots hit Mr. Fakhrizadeh but the car swerved and came to a stop.

The shooter adjusted the sights and fired another burst, hitting the windshield at least three times and Mr. Fakhrizadeh at least once in the shoulder. He stepped out of the car and crouched behind the open front door.

According to Iran’s Fars News, three more bullets tore into his spine. He collapsed on the road.


The blue Zamyad (Nissan truck) exploded.

The explosion was intended to rip the robot to shreds so the Iranians could not piece together what had happened. Instead, most of the equipment was hurled into the air and then fell to the ground, damaged beyond repair but largely intact.

The entire operation took less than a minute. Fifteen bullets were fired.

Iranian investigators noted that not one of them hit Ms. Ghasemi, seated inches away, accuracy that they attributed to the use of facial recognition software.


It was the debut test of a high-tech, computerized sharpshooter kitted out with artificial intelligence and multiple-camera eyes, operated via satellite and capable of firing 600 rounds a minute.

The souped-up, remote-controlled machine gun now joins the combat drone in the arsenal of high-tech weapons for remote targeted killing. But unlike a drone, the robotic machine gun draws no attention in the sky, where a drone could be shot down, and can be situated anywhere, qualities likely to reshape the worlds of security and espionage.
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Who do you think orders more state-sponsored assassinations? Israel, Russia, or the US?

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That I would not know the answer to. I don’t think they post that information intentionally.

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Fuel Shortages Pressure Johnson as U.K. Crisis Escalates
https://financialpost.com/pmn/business- ... -escalates
With a shortage of truck drivers raising the prospect of widening disruption to food and fuel deliveries in coming weeks, the government moved late on Sunday to temporarily suspend competition rules and allow companies to coordinate fuel supplies to the most affected regions.

That came after Johnson announced measures including a u-turn on relaxing immigration rules for foreign truckers and poultry workers and called in army examiners to help ramp up driving tests for heavy goods vehicles. The prime minister is considering plans to use soldiers to drive tankers around the country, the Financial Times reported, citing unidentified officials.



In Britain, Rising Prices and Shortages Evoke 1970s-Style Jitters
https
://dnyuz.com/2021/09/24/in-britain-rising-prices-and-shortages-evoke-1970s-style-jitters/
LONDON — Long lines at gas stations, rising fuel prices, empty shelves in supermarkets and worries about runaway inflation.

Britons have emerged from 18 months of pandemic-imposed hibernation to find their country has many of the same afflictions it had during the 1970s.


I see a lot of similarities between the UK and the US right now as a result of Covid and maybe Brexit it seems. Supply shortages, inflation, etc. The UK seems to have it worse than the US right now.

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UK has it worse because of Brexit, on top of supply chain issues which is affecting everyone, and they're talking about a 'winter of discontent' part 2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent.

Not sure if you've heard of AUKUS, but it's a pretty big win for the UK (and Australia) so even though it won't do anything about energy and food shortages, it is a huge win for 'global Britain' i.e. the Brexiters, so it will temper the inevitable anti-Brexiter sentiment a little.

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