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Interesting developments
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Each of the resignations has it's own story. The one surrounding the Ireland Prime Minister is odd to me.


This also may have been involved, along with the unrest of the Irish citizens.


This bill that is trying to be pushed through to action in Ireland is pretty scary.

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Wow.
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I've been meaning to learn more about this situation in Haiti. I found the following article interesting. Will post more thoughts on it later when the kids go to bed.

https://apnews.com/article/haiti-violen ... caca2bc1f1

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China continues to harass Philippine ships in the South China Sea.

China Attacks Philippine Ship, Injures Crew in Latest Escalation of South China Sea Standoff
MARCH 23, 2024
https://news.usni.org/2024/03/23/china- ... a-standoff

https://x.com/TeamAFP/status/1771361081233150318?s=20

4 Philippine Sailors Injured, 2 Vessels Damaged in Chinese Attempt to Block Second Thomas Shoal Resupply
MARCH 5, 2024 7:28 AM
https://news.usni.org/2024/03/05/4-phil ... l-resupply

Chinese Ships Ram Philippine Vessels, Hits Crews with Water Cannons in Series of South China Sea Incidents

DECEMBER 10, 2023

https://news.usni.org/2023/12/10/chines ... -incidents

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Have you guys seen this? It's about "Havana Syndrome," which has been discussed before but rarely in such detail on a legit show like 60 Minutes.


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"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann
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Ha! That's so Republican. Good one.
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Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:10 pm
Have you guys seen this? It's about "Havana Syndrome," which has been discussed before but rarely in such detail on a legit show like 60 Minutes.

It’s a tough thing to report on because nobody knows WTF it is. Your reporting can either be sensationalist and speculative, or a big shrug. Neither is very helpful.

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Sounds like he was saying Russia has been taking out top Americans it considers a threat with some sort of top secret weapon that causes brain injuries.

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Nodack wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:25 pm
Sounds like he was saying Russia has been taking out top Americans it considers a threat with some sort of top secret weapon that causes brain injuries.
That’s very unlikely.

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It’s a mystery we may never figure out.

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The nice Canadians don't seem to be on their best behavior anymore when it comes to Trudeau.
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In2ition wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:50 pm
The nice Canadians don't seem to be on their best behavior anymore when it comes to Trudeau.
I’m not up on Canadian politics but curious what are they all up in a furor over? Maple syrup shortage?

My point is, without context it looks like some fear mongering propaganda. Just calling them a tyrant doesn’t make someone a tyrant.

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Kryptonic wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:43 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:50 pm
The nice Canadians don't seem to be on their best behavior anymore when it comes to Trudeau.
I’m not up on Canadian politics but curious what are they all up in a furor over? Maple syrup shortage?

My point is, without context it looks like some fear mongering propaganda. Just calling them a tyrant doesn’t make someone a tyrant.
All his policies have been tyrannical. From how he dealt with the Truckers, who had a legit beef with his policies of forcing peolle to take the vax. Arresting them, freezing bank accounts of people that just donated to them. Now, he wants to arrest people and put them away for life for thought crimes.



Canada’s descent into tyranny is almost complete
Handing judges the ability to put people under house arrest because they might commit a hate crime isn’t progressive, it’s North Korean

DAVID COLLINS
13 March 2024 • 11:06am
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/0 ... r-trudeau/
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TWITTER FILES - BRAZIL

Brazil is engaged in a sweeping crackdown on free speech led by a Supreme Court justice named Alexandre de Moraes.

De Moraes has thrown people in jail without trial for things they posted on social media. He has demanded the removal of users from social media platforms. And he has required the censorship of specific posts, without giving users any right of appeal or even the right to see the evidence presented against them.

Now, Twitter Files, released here for the first time, reveal that de Moraes and the Superior Electoral Court he controls engaged in a clear attempt to undermine democracy in Brazil. They:

— illegally demanded that Twitter reveal personal details about Twitter users who used hashtags he did not like;

— demanded access to Twitter’s internal data, in violation of Twitter policy;

— sought to censor, unilaterally, Twitter posts by sitting members of Brazil’s Congress;

— sought to weaponize Twitter’s content moderation policies against supporters of then-president
@jairbolsonaro


The Files show: the origins of the Brazilian judiciary’s demand for sweeping censorship powers; the court’s use of censorship for anti-democratic election interference; and the birth of the Censorship Industrial Complex in Brazil.

TWITTER FILES - BRAZIL was written by
@david_agape_

@EliVieiraJr
&
@shellenberger


We presented these findings to de Moraes, to the Supreme Court (STF), and to the High Electoral Court (TSE). None responded.

Let’s get into it...



“We are… pushing back against the requests...”

On February 14, 2020, Twitter’s legal counsel in Brazil, Rafael Batista, emailed his colleagues to describe a hearing in Congress on “Disinformation and 'fake news’”

Batista revealed that members of Brazil’s Congress had asked Twitter for the “content of messages exchanged by some users via DMs” as well as “login records - among other info.”

Batista said, “We are… pushing back against the requests,” which were illegal, “because they do not meet [Brazilian Internet law] Marco Civil legal requirements for disclosure of user's records.”

Batista noted that some conservative Twitter users had gone to the Supreme Court “after they learned from the media that the Congress was trying to get their IPs and DM content. In light of this, the Supreme Court granted an injunction suspending the requirement given its failure to fulfill legal requirements.”


CONTEXT: Brazil’s Supreme Court and Superior Electoral Court

Seven justices comprise Brazil’s Superior Electoral Court (TSE).

Three of those justices are also members of the Supreme Court (STF).

One of them, Alexandre de Moraes, presides over the TSE.

Here's background on the rise of Brazil's Censorship Industrial Complex by
@david_agape_


“Google, Facebook, Uber, WhatsApp and Instagram provide registration data and phone numbers without court order”

On January 27, 2021, Batista emailed his colleagues about a police investigation against him for refusing to give personal Twitter user data to the São Paulo State Public Prosecutor Office.

The Prosecutor claimed that Twitter’s “attitude is isolated, because all the other big technology companies such as Google, Facebook, Uber, WhatsApp, and Instagram provide registration data and phone numbers without a court order."

But Twitter “has not [sic] affirmative obligation to collect registration data” explained Batista to the prosecutor and “there is no phone number associated with the account under investigation.”


“This is the first time an actual criminal investigation was filed against an employee”

On February 18, 2021, Batista emailed his colleagues again to report back on his deposition. He said he told the prosecutor that “Twitter operates in Brazil since 2012 and this is the first time an actual criminal investigation was filed against an employee for allegedly non-compliance either with a request or a court order.”

Batista said he pointed out that “There is no affirmative obligation in the country for collection and consequently provision of 'registration data'."

Moreover, Brazil’s Internet privacy law, “Marco Civil… covers only: "I - physical address; and II - personal qualifications: understood as full name, marital status and profession" - none of them collected by Twitter.”
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^ Would you be willing to give a brief summary of what all that is about?

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Brazil's Supreme Court has gone completely rogue and is demanding censorship, even though the country has first amendment rights. It's not a surprise at all, tbh.
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