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Jan 6 - “And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.”
Trump was clearly talking about something other than going to the Capital and fighting like hell. I have no idea what that could be but, I’m sure he certainly didn’t mean for his supporters to go to the Capital and fight like hell. That would be wrong. And when they did go to the Capital and fight like hell Trump did everything in his power to stop it as soon as he found out. All those people that worked for Trump who testified that they tried all day to get him to call off his cult army were all lying of course. Trump begged Nancy Pelosi to stop it but, she refused. The CIA was there instigating the whole thing along with BLM and Antifa posing as Maga. It’s a huge conspiracy that Trump had absolutely nothing to do with. He was heartbroken that his or should I say all those people posing as his people were attacking the Capital on the day Biden was being officially elected. And then on top of it they arrested a thousand Maga Patriots who had nothing to do with attacking the Capital. They were there trying to stop the CIA from instigating anything and were just caught up in the fray they were trying to stop.
It’s all just a big misunderstanding.
There are many instances of Democrats saying, "Fight like hell!" prior to the election and the summer before.
Trump was not telling people to physically take over the Capitol, but get involved in Politics all the way down to the School Boards and local elections. He was saying that you can't sit on the sidelines in Politics and think that everything is going to be ok.
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
I get your spirit of rebellion. It’s happening alright.
Pro-Trump disruptions in Arizona county elevate fears for the 2024 vote https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1k5iPC
PHOENIX — As the board of supervisors for Arizona’s largest county abruptly ended a meeting late last month, a swarm of people rushed toward the dais, shouting that the members were illegitimate.
The Maricopa County leaders made a beeline for a side door and were swiftly escorted out of the chamber by security guards, who called for backup from the sheriff’s office. After the meeting’s live-feed went dead, a member of the crowd yelled that a “revolution” was underway.
“I’m here today to put you on public notice and to inform you that you are not our elected officials,” said Michelle Klann, co-founder of a pro-Trump group, from a podium she had commandeered. “This is an act of insurrection. Due to all the voter fraud, you have never been formally voted in.”
“This was an organized, coordinated attack,” said one top county official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security matters. “It was a dress rehearsal for the election.”
Since the 2020 vote, the Maricopa supervisors — most of whom are Republicans — have faced relentless public ridicule, conspiracy theories and death threats for signing off on the results and refusing to go along with Trump’s efforts to overturn the outcome.
This is silly. Nothing violent was happening, and nothing will come of this, imo. I saw the video, it was a nothingburger.
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
Trump and his entourage kept up the fight like hell, trial by combat routine the morning of Jan 6 and then sent them to the Capital. I don’t recall any mention of school boards and local elections. All his supporters didn’t disperse to go get involved at their school boards. They went to the Capital and rioted just like Trump and his entourage wanted. All this spinning of facts must make your head dizzy.
I mean, come on. The guy is literally promising a "bloodbath" if he loses. How else can you interpret this, other than a promise to encourage political violence?
I knew you were going to put a dishonestly edited clip here.
Umm that added exactly zero helpful context.
Idk what to tell you, but the context was the auto industry and the economy because of it.
Which was just as clear from the "dishonestly edited" (shorter) clip.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
Cry me a river? He is clearly not "signaling" violence, and he hasn't before or "roused his troops" as you say. That's you and others that made up stuff in your head, again. That's another lie. You keep pushing something that is very obviously dishonest, and you are lying on top of that, so what does that make you?
He told the Proud Boys to be on standby from a nationally televised debate stage, and they knew exactly what he wanted.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
What Trump wants and what he gets are two different things. There is a spirit of independence and rebellion in this country that you don't really have in many other countries. We don't live in a class or cast system, even though many would love for that to be the case, probably because they believe they are better than everyone else and should be elevated. There is not going to be any type of communist obedience here in the states. Most people would say, "F that!"
So what you're saying is that you're promising us that there will be no peaceful transfer of power if Biden is reelected, because that would be "communist obedience"? Is that what you're saying or would you like to clarify?
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
What Trump wants and what he gets are two different things. There is a spirit of independence and rebellion in this country that you don't really have in many other countries. We don't live in a class or cast system, even though many would love for that to be the case, probably because they believe they are better than everyone else and should be elevated. There is not going to be any type of communist obedience here in the states. Most people would say, "F that!"
So what you're saying is that you're promising us that there will be no peaceful transfer of power if Biden is reelected, because that would be "communist obedience"? Is that what you're saying or would you like to clarify?
I was speaking of Trump wanting "his people" to rise on command. It had zero, nada, nothing to do with Biden being reelected or a peaceful transfer of power. Besides, what transfer would have to happen if Biden is reelected? He's already in power, so no transfer takes place.
Now, do you mean that you're promising us that there will be no peaceful transfer of power if Trump is reelected?
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
What Trump wants and what he gets are two different things. There is a spirit of independence and rebellion in this country that you don't really have in many other countries. We don't live in a class or cast system, even though many would love for that to be the case, probably because they believe they are better than everyone else and should be elevated. There is not going to be any type of communist obedience here in the states. Most people would say, "F that!"
So what you're saying is that you're promising us that there will be no peaceful transfer of power if Biden is reelected, because that would be "communist obedience"? Is that what you're saying or would you like to clarify?
I was speaking of Trump wanting "his people" to rise on command. It had zero, nada, nothing to do with Biden being reelected or a peaceful transfer of power. Besides, what transfer would have to happen if Biden is reelected? He's already in power, so no transfer takes place.
Now, do you mean that you're promising us that there will be no peaceful transfer of power if Trump is reelected?
Yeah, "transfer of power" didn't really make sense. I should have said transition between terms or something. Basically, the certification and inauguration after a new election.
I appreciate your clarification. Makes more sense. There was no context to your second paragraph indicating that you were referring back to the post about Kim Jong Un, so I assumed it was referring to Trump not wanting violence after losing the next election.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
Hey, Jan 6th never happened. Ask In2. You're all just being dishonest.
Come on, there is no need to just make stuff up in regards to what I believe.
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
Are we going to find out that you are in the FOIA requests?
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
I do think it is unwise to try to diagnose these guys from a distance like this. But it's interesting that the Trump-friendly Newsweek would run an article basically saying he has dementia.
Newsweek now Trump-friendly? For goodness sakes...
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
I do think it is unwise to try to diagnose these guys from a distance like this. But it's interesting that the Trump-friendly Newsweek would run an article basically saying he has dementia.
I would like to present this 5 minute video evidence as a comparison to the unprofessionalism from the Dr in the article.
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
