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Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:39 am
by Mori Chu
Source? What dictionary is that from? The term "bloodbath" does have a colloquial meaning, but still, Trump should choose his words more carefully.

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:22 am
by In2ition
The MSM gods declared it and their followers bought it. Shameful.

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:25 am
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:39 am
Source? What dictionary is that from? The term "bloodbath" does have a colloquial meaning, but still, Trump should choose his words more carefully.
If you use Google, the first location is dictionary.com
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/bloodbath
"bloodbath
or blood bath
[ bluhd-bath, -bahth ]SHOW IPA


See synonyms for bloodbath on Thesaurus.com
noun,plural blood·baths [bluhd-bathz, -bahthz, -baths, -bahths].
a ruthless slaughter of a great number of people; massacre.

Informal. a period of disastrous loss or reversal:
A few mutual funds performed well in the general bloodbath of the stock market.
"
Here is Merriam-Webster:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bloodbath
bloodbath
noun
blood·​bath ˈbləd-ˌbath -ˌbäth
Synonyms of bloodbath
1
: a great slaughter
2
a
: a notably fierce, violent, or destructive contest or struggle
the campaign has become a bloodbath
b
: a major economic disaster
a market bloodbat
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Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:56 am
by Nodack
Trump F’ed up and said something completely in appropriate again. Alert the damage control team.

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:38 am
by In2ition
Or, the low informed are easily duped.

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:36 pm
by Mori Chu
Using the word "bloodbath" is different if you're some random newsperson vs if you're a former President who has literally incited a violent insurrection against the country and its government. It's also different if you're describing something that already happened (so that it is clear that it is not a literal bloodbath) vs something you want to happen (where it could be unclear what you mean, causing people to become violent and spill blood).

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:45 pm
by In2ition
This is pure nonsense. It's deliberately being dishonest for no reason and then trying your hardest to do the mental gymnastics to excuse yourself.

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:49 pm
by Mori Chu
You don't need to agree with me about it. But I am sincere in my concern about Trump using language like this. I worry that some percentage of people who hear him talk about a "bloodbath" if he loses will decide to take him literally. Trump may not mean that, he may not want that, but if just a small number of wackos decide he meant that, we will have a very bad time. I am not being dishonest. If you don't agree, so be it.

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:48 pm
by Nodack
Not just mori…

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Trump says some migrants are 'not people', and warns of 'bloodbath' if he loses
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/17/12390192 ... f-he-loses

Trump Says Some Migrants Are ‘Not People’ and Predicts a ‘Blood Bath’ if He Loses
In a caustic and discursive speech in Ohio, former President Donald J. Trump once again doubled down on a doomsday vision of the United States.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/16/us/p ... -ohio.html

Trump says there will be a ‘bloodbath’ if he loses the election
Trump made the comments at a rally in Ohio, where he spoke about auto manufacturing. The Biden campaign responded by criticizing the former president’s “threats of political violence.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna143746

Cassidy says Trump’s ‘bloodbath’ rhetoric concerning to some voters
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/453 ... ng-voters/


Trump warns US voters of a 'bloodbath' if he loses presidential election
Former US president Donald Trump warned of a "bloodbath for the country" if he is not elected in November.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20 ... l-election

Trump says there will be a ‘bloodbath’ if he loses the election
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-b ... 17568.html

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:06 am
by In2ition
This is the 'fine people' hoax all over again. It's incredibly dishonest. It's shameful to push this lie, just like it was shameful to push the other lie. These articles you post, just show how dishonest they are, because you are going to have a lot of low information idiots are going to believe them. I think you lose all credibility when you push this crap.

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:33 am
by Mori Chu
I don't know why you are getting so defensive and indignant about this. He has roused his troops to violence before, and now he's clearly signaling that he wants them to do so again if the election doesn't go his way. You think it's dishonest for me to say so? Cry me a river.

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:40 am
by In2ition
Cry me a river? He is clearly not "signaling" violence, and he hasn't before or "roused his troops" as you say. That's you and others that made up stuff in your head, again. That's another lie. You keep pushing something that is very obviously dishonest, and you are lying on top of that, so what does that make you?

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:49 am
by Mori Chu
Here's another post, Trump caught on a hot mic talking about how he envies Kim Jong Un because people obey him.


Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:49 am
by Mori Chu
Trump saluting criminals arrested and convicted of crimes for the 1/6 insurrection. Saluting them. Blasphemy.


Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:51 am
by Mori Chu
The thing about the "bloodbath" comment is, he incited a violent mob that attacked the Capitol and hurt police officers, tried to kill his own VP, wanted to find and harm/kill Nancy Pelosi, AOC, and other Dems, ... and he's very explicitly saying that he wants to pardon and release them if he's re-elected. Seems like a pretty clear signal to me that he wants more behavior like that.


Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:56 am
by Mori Chu
Here's GMA's take on the "bloodbath" comment.


Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:43 am
by Nodack
Jan 6 - “And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.”

Trump was clearly talking about something other than going to the Capital and fighting like hell. I have no idea what that could be but, I’m sure he certainly didn’t mean for his supporters to go to the Capital and fight like hell. That would be wrong. And when they did go to the Capital and fight like hell Trump did everything in his power to stop it as soon as he found out. All those people that worked for Trump who testified that they tried all day to get him to call off his cult army were all lying of course. Trump begged Nancy Pelosi to stop it but, she refused. The CIA was there instigating the whole thing along with BLM and Antifa posing as Maga. It’s a huge conspiracy that Trump had absolutely nothing to do with. He was heartbroken that his or should I say all those people posing as his people were attacking the Capital on the day Biden was being officially elected. And then on top of it they arrested a thousand Maga Patriots who had nothing to do with attacking the Capital. They were there trying to stop the CIA from instigating anything and were just caught up in the fray they were trying to stop.

It’s all just a big misunderstanding. 🤕

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:56 am
by In2ition
Every one of those opinions or reporting are completely dishonest, but I'm not surprised by these idiots. A masterclass in gaslighting. Every one of those was dishonest. There are grandmothers that didn't commit any type of violence locked up for this. There are people that were there and were trying to help people, including police officers He said he wasn't going to pardon the ones that undoubtably committed violence against the police officers. So there is another dishonest reporting or opinion. The thing you should understand, and I know you do, but for some reason you have a mental block over it, is that being dishonest is not helping. People see through you, when you are being deceptive and dishonest about it and when you are trying to make it out into something it clearly is not. That never helps your case. People sit back and say, "WTF? Why are they insisting on being dishonest and doubling and tripling down on it?"

What Trump wants and what he gets are two different things. There is a spirit of independence and rebellion in this country that you don't really have in many other countries. We don't live in a class or cast system, even though many would love for that to be the case, probably because they believe they are better than everyone else and should be elevated. There is not going to be any type of communist obedience here in the states. Most people would say, "F that!"

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:58 am
by Nodack
If Biden said it you would have the opposite opinion.

Re: Trump 2024

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:01 am
by Nodack
I get your spirit of rebellion. It’s happening alright.

Pro-Trump disruptions in Arizona county elevate fears for the 2024 vote
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1k5iPC
PHOENIX — As the board of supervisors for Arizona’s largest county abruptly ended a meeting late last month, a swarm of people rushed toward the dais, shouting that the members were illegitimate.

The Maricopa County leaders made a beeline for a side door and were swiftly escorted out of the chamber by security guards, who called for backup from the sheriff’s office. After the meeting’s live-feed went dead, a member of the crowd yelled that a “revolution” was underway.

“I’m here today to put you on public notice and to inform you that you are not our elected officials,” said Michelle Klann, co-founder of a pro-Trump group, from a podium she had commandeered. “This is an act of insurrection. Due to all the voter fraud, you have never been formally voted in.”

“This was an organized, coordinated attack,” said one top county official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security matters. “It was a dress rehearsal for the election.”

Since the 2020 vote, the Maricopa supervisors — most of whom are Republicans — have faced relentless public ridicule, conspiracy theories and death threats for signing off on the results and refusing to go along with Trump’s efforts to overturn the outcome.