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Boom. Mueller's investigation has indicted the following three men:

- Paul Manafort, Tr*mp's former head campaign manager
- Rick Gates, Manafort business associate and also Tr*mp campaign aide
- George Papadopolous, a Tr*mp campaign foreign policy adviser

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/paul-man ... d=50807954
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/ ... ies-244305

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Papa flipping is going to be big. He has already plead guilty & has stolen a bit of Manafort's thunder today.
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Now we are starting to drain the swamp.

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This is just the beginning. Who knows if they'll find something that gets them to POTUS45 himself; but they're already just one hop away, busting guys who were key members of his campaign. The odds that the man on top knew about some of the malfeasance and/or participated in it himself are growing more likely.

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What was it exactly that each of these men did or is being accused of doing?
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In2ition wrote:What was it exactly that each of these men did or is being accused of doing?
READ: Federal grand jury indictment against Manafort, Gates

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/30/polit ... index.html

Manafort
1. Conspiracy against the United States.
2. Conspiracy to launder money
3-6. Failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts for calendar years 2011-2014
7-9. Failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts for calendar years 2011-2013

Gates
1. Unregistered agent of a foreign principal
2. False and misleading FARA statements
3. False statements
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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
In2ition wrote:What was it exactly that each of these men did or is being accused of doing?
READ: Federal grand jury indictment against Manafort, Gates

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/30/polit ... index.html

Manafort
1. Conspiracy against the United States.
2. Conspiracy to launder money
3-6. Failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts for calendar years 2011-2014
7-9. Failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts for calendar years 2011-2013

Gates
1. Unregistered agent of a foreign principal
2. False and misleading FARA statements
3. False statements
To the Firing Squad, M'Fers! And eradicate all those related to them! All kidding aside, this is interesting.
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NPR Russia Investigation Update


Last week in the Russia Investigations: The feds sitting down with White House aides. Attorney General Jeff Sessions stays the course. And will DOJ special counsel Robert Mueller give a "toothless" old law new fangs?

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Donald Trump Jr sent private messages to coordinate with Wikileaks about timing and messaging of releasing various damaging information. Pence, Trump, Trump Jr, Kushner, and others have previously publicly denied any kind of coordination between Wikileaks and their campaign. Wikileaks, of course, was the outlet used by Russia to release the illegally hacked emails from the DNC in 2016.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... s-messages

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I switched to Direct TV a few months ago and got a bunch of new political news channels.

One America News- One America News Network (abbreviated as OANN), also referred to as One America News (abbreviated as OAN), is an American cable news television channel launched on July 4, 2013 that is owned by Herring Networks, Inc. The network is headquartered in San Diego, California, and operates a news bureau in Washington, D.C.[1] and New York City

Originally launched with the intention of targeting a conservative and center-right audience,[2][3] OAN states a goal of delivering credible national and international news coverage throughout the day while its prime time political talk shows illustrate a conservative prospective.[4][5][6]

According to the Washington Post, the channel has risen to greater prominence due to its pro-Trump coverage.[7] Robert Herring, Sr., founder and CEO of the network, has ordered producers to promote certain types of content, such as pro-Trump stories, anti-Clinton stories and anti-abortion stories, and minimize stories about Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.[7]

Free speech TV- Free Speech TV (FSTV) is an American news and opinion network. It was launched in 1995 and is owned and operated by Public Communicators Incorporated, a 501(c)3 non-profit, tax-exempt organization founded in 1974. Distributed principally by Dish Network, DirecTV, and the network’s live stream at freespeech.org and on Roku, Free Speech TV has run commercial free since 1995 with support from viewers and foundations. The network claims to “amplify underrepresented voices and those working on the front lines of social, economic and environmental justice,” bringing viewers an array of daily news programs, independent documentaries and special events coverage.

RT- RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian international television network funded by the Russian government.[6][7] It operates cable and satellite television channels directed to audiences outside of Russia, as well as providing Internet content in various languages, including English, Spanish and Russian.
RT has been frequently described as a propaganda outlet for the Russian government[13][14][15] and its foreign policy.[13][15][16][17][18][19] RT has also been accused of spreading disinformation[19][20][21] by news reporters,[22][23] including some former RT reporters.[24][25][26] The United Kingdom media regulator, Ofcom, has repeatedly found RT to have breached rules on impartiality and of broadcasting "materially misleading" content.[27][28][29][30] On 13 November 2017, RT America officially registered as a "foreign agent" with the United States Department of Justice under the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Under the act, RT will be required to disclose financial information.

Newsmax- Nielsen Online said Newsmax was the most trafficked conservative website with approximately 4 million unique visitors monthly.[11] A 2010 study released by Nielsen reported that Newsmax.com was the number one site for conservatives in the U.S., making it one of the most influential conservative news sites in the nation.[14] Alexa Internet statistics for Newsmax.com indicate that the readership consists mainly of Internet users over the age of 45, which aligns itself to the average age of Republican leaning voters, as gathered by The Pew Research Center.[15][16]

A profile on Newsmax in The New York Times described the company as a "potent force" in U.S. politics and noted the company's headquarters had become a must stop for Republican candidates seeking the party's 2012 nomination.[17]


The propaganda war has definitely taken over cable tv. The US has started cracking down on RT, Russia’s US propaganda news station and Russia has matched us by cracking down on our media.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/25/world/rus ... index.html
(CNN)Russian President Vladmir Putin has signed amendments into law that will allow foreign media outlets in Russia to be listed as "foreign agents," according to state-run news agency Sputnik news.

Russian officials have said the change is a retaliatory response to the US government's request that RT, the Russian TV network, register its American arm as a foreign agent under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).



There sure does seem to be a whole lot of people trying to sway our opinions today. RT news is Russian propaganda broadcast to millions of Americans. If you watch the channel there are no Russians. They are all English speaking Americans or Brits coming across as regular American news but, its pro Russian anti American propaganda cleverly designed as regular American news.

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This news subterfuge is a whole new area we need to watch out for. There's no absolute way to know but pretty sure it's why Trump is in office today. The ironic thing is that Trump was the one touting fake news as if it was against him.
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If you didn't already see it, it looks like Michael Flynn is now cooperating with the Mueller investigation. This could be huge, because it'd imply that he's going to help them get somebody higher up the food chain than Flynn himself, which is a small list of people including folks like Trump himself, Trump Jr, and Jared Kushner.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/u ... ml?referer

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:If you didn't already see it, it looks like Michael Flynn is now cooperating with the Mueller investigation. This could be huge, because it'd imply that he's going to help them get somebody higher up the food chain than Flynn himself, which is a small list of people including folks like Trump himself, Trump Jr, and Jared Kushner.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/u ... ml?referer
This just feels like wishful thinking, again and again.
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In2ition wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:If you didn't already see it, it looks like Michael Flynn is now cooperating with the Mueller investigation. This could be huge, because it'd imply that he's going to help them get somebody higher up the food chain than Flynn himself, which is a small list of people including folks like Trump himself, Trump Jr, and Jared Kushner.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/u ... ml?referer
This just feels like wishful thinking, again and again.
We will all find out for sure soon enough.It’s not a nothing burger. Three of the seven guys accused have been charged already, with one pleading guilty and one now actively working with the FBI. Meuller doesn’t seem to be anywhere near being wrapped up with the investigation.

I admit I don’t like Trump in a big way and I am wishing this investigation exposes Trump and his team and leads to someone else being President just like Republicans wanted the Hillary Benghazi investigations to bring Hillary down. Nine seperate investigations to prove she killed those Americans and all they got was that she had a private email server and nothing on Benghazi. That was wishful thinking.

This investigation is more than wishful thinking. Charges have been filed on three guys so far and one of the charges is conspiracy against the United States. The fake news tells the truth a lot more often than our President does. Trump just claimed the Access Holywood tape was fake. He already owned up to it many months ago. How dumb does he think we are?

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Mike Flynn is officially being charged with a federal crime for lying to the FBI. But the big story is that he is meeting with Mueller for a plea deal where he will cooperate with the investigation and help testify to bust others. As stated before, that probably means he has dirt on Kushner, Trump Jr, and/or Trump himself.

https://news.vice.com/story/michael-fly ... guilty-fbi

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Kushner is senior transition official who ordered Flynn to contact Russia: reports
http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... d-flynn-to

Two former Trump transition officials told Bloomberg that Kushner ordered Flynn to contact the Russian ambassador and ambassadors from other countries in an attempt to stop a U.N. Security Council vote condemning Israeli settlement activity.

Kushner told Flynn he needed to get ambassadors and foreign minsters to commit to delay or vote against the resolution. According to prosecutors, then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak gave Flynn that assurance.

Then-president elect Trump publicly called for the U.N. to veto the resolution, calling it “extremely unfair to all Israelis.”

The resolution, which was put forth in December 2016 during the final days of the Obama administration, ultimately passed after the United States abstained from vetoing it.

Bloomberg reports that the effort to delay or stop the resolution was also apparently coordinated with Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu
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Wow. The investigation has got almost all of the top Trump people ensnared already, and it ain't over yet.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Wow. The investigation has got almost all of the top Trump people ensnared already, and it ain't over yet.
Any new updates on this?
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