Suns News: Week 8 12/3-12/9

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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:21 pm
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Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:04 pm
Vice president of basketball operations and co-interim general manager James Jones, though, says that’s not the case.

“Yeah, we have to worry about what happens in the draft but our primary focus is on this team currently and what we can do,” he told 98.7 FM Arizona’s Sports Station’s Burns & Gambo on Wednesday. “We have a bunch of young players in this draft. We’ve been deep in the draft, we’ve drafted a lot of players over the years and our focus has shifted more to development of these players and looking at NBA players that we possibly can add to this team.
“We shifted focus,” Jones said. “I think in the past our primary focus — a great amount of our time was spent turning over every stone as it relates to players and college players, but college players don’t win NBA games. NBA players do, so that’s where our focus is now.
http://arizonasports.com/story/1761282/ ... nba-draft/
So what are we saying here? Looking to move the pick? Less time scouting? I don't quite get it.
If you don’t understand what Jones is saying, don’t worry about it. Jones probably doesn’t either.

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https://twitter.com/ChampJAXx/status/1071851734379585536

https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/1071880617921400832


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They just didn’t have them on the list. The suns whole scouting staff was there.

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Split T wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:42 pm
They just didn’t have them on the list. The suns whole scouting staff was there.
Our entire scouting department was there?

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If nothing else, this awful season has brought out a lot of good jokes and barbs about the ineptitude of the team. The humor keeps me going.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:15 pm
If nothing else, this awful season has brought out a lot of good jokes and barbs about the ineptitude of the team. The humor keeps me going.
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JeremyG wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:48 pm
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:15 pm
If nothing else, this awful season has brought out a lot of good jokes and barbs about the ineptitude of the team. The humor keeps me going.
There's a reason they call it a laughingstock.
What if I told you none of the jokes were funny and they were all true?
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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:50 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:48 pm
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:15 pm
If nothing else, this awful season has brought out a lot of good jokes and barbs about the ineptitude of the team. The humor keeps me going.
There's a reason they call it a laughingstock.
What if I told you none of the jokes were funny and they were all true?

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ShelC wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:14 pm

https://twitter.com/ChampJAXx/status/1071851734379585536

https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/1071880617921400832

Somebody needs to teach Gambo the difference between “there” and “their”.
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Cap wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:47 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:50 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:48 pm
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:15 pm
If nothing else, this awful season has brought out a lot of good jokes and barbs about the ineptitude of the team. The humor keeps me going.
There's a reason they call it a laughingstock.
What if I told you none of the jokes were funny and they were all true?
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carey wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:50 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:35 pm
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:13 pm
Yeah, if what I read is accurate, James Jones is going to trade our top 5 pick and players for a mediocre PG, and we are going to miss out on a true generational player. But we will get another 10-12 wins a year. Woo. Hoo.
Wait, what?
Yeah, I"m wondering what Indy is reading! :!:
That whole James Jones article is what I am talking about. We aren't focused on 'college players' anymore, so we are going to do something stupid with a top 5 pick (worse case, could be #1 again). We are going to get a meh player that sounds great, but isn't, and probably either already has a huge stupid contract, or is up for one in 1 year. You know it is going to happen.

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I honestly would be fine trading our pick. Protect it for #1 or maybe top 2 and move it for a star. I don’t think this draft is very good outside of Zion and maybe Barrett.

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Split T wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:17 am
I honestly would be fine trading our pick. Protect it for #1 or maybe top 2 and move it for a star. I don’t think this draft is very good outside of Zion and maybe Barrett.
Which player in the league is gettable with our current assets that would be better on our team than the current top 3 college players? Keep in mind you control draft picks for a long time.

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Indy wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:26 am
Which player in the league is gettable with our current assets that would be better on our team than the current top 3 college players? Keep in mind you control draft picks for a long time.
If your question is assuming we're trading a top 3 pick? Not a single player in the league.
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carey wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:28 am
Indy wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:26 am
Which player in the league is gettable with our current assets that would be better on our team than the current top 3 college players? Keep in mind you control draft picks for a long time.
If your question is assuming we're trading a top 3 pick? Not a single player in the league.
I should have assumed a top 5 pick to be safe, because if we finish with the worst record, we can't pick lower than 5. But we would have a better then 50/50 shot at top 4.

14.0% chance at top 1
27.4% chance at top 2
40.1% chance at top 2
52.1% chance at top 2
100.% chance at top 5

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Indy wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:26 am
Split T wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:17 am
I honestly would be fine trading our pick. Protect it for #1 or maybe top 2 and move it for a star. I don’t think this draft is very good outside of Zion and maybe Barrett.
Which player in the league is gettable with our current assets that would be better on our team than the current top 3 college players? Keep in mind you control draft picks for a long time.
I don’t have a specific player in mind. I just would be open to trading the pick. Remember, we’ve picked Len, Bender, and Jackson with top 5 picks. I think this draft has a higher chance of landing us another Bender/Len than it does an Ayton in the top 5. Not counting Zion or Barrett.

So take Zion and Barrett out and there are tons of players I’d rather have than reddish, little, or bol.
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Split T wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:25 am
Indy wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:26 am
Split T wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:17 am
I honestly would be fine trading our pick. Protect it for #1 or maybe top 2 and move it for a star. I don’t think this draft is very good outside of Zion and maybe Barrett.
Which player in the league is gettable with our current assets that would be better on our team than the current top 3 college players? Keep in mind you control draft picks for a long time.
I don’t have a specific player in mind. I just would be open to trading the pick. Remember, we’ve picked Len, Bender, and Jackson with top 5 picks. I think this draft has a higher chance of landing us another Bender/Len than it does an Ayton in the top 5. Not counting Zion or Barrett.

So take Zion and Barrett out and there are tons of players I’d rather have than reddish, little, or bol.
I get there are tons of NBA players you would rather have, but which are available for the pick? Or are you assuming we are including part of our core with the pick to make a big move? (BTW, I am thinking our core is 3-4 guys--Book, Bridges, Ayton, maybe Warren unless we can get a great 4)

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Looks like I quoted you before you were done. I think my question still stands--who can we get that is available for what we have? I am not being contrarian (like usual), I am trying to see what would be better than a top pick.

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