I was just going to remark that I hope I don't piss off Carey.carey wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:42 pmI'll probably read it because what else will I do but I am beyond critical mass for Clarke discussion.In2ition wrote:This is a long read, but it's good. https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/13/u ... on-clarke/
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I’ve come around a bit on white. He’s not my favorite target, but I think he can be a useful player. Even if he’s not the pg of the future, he could be a good 3rd guard. And if our new player development staff can help turn him into a pg, I’ll be pretty thrilled. Being better in college than expected is a good sign for his development potential.
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I want them to trade the pick for a PG or PF. Package deal or not. Preferably they would also send TJ Warren out too, his disappearing act every season is quite annoying(what exactly was wrong with him last year?)
I would like to see the pick traded because the last thing we need is another young player with potential that will take 2-4 years to develop. We need to start making moves for now. Not years from now. Booker is you long and established. Ayton is young and growing. Bridges is young and growing. Jackson is young and growing. Oubre is young and growing.
I just think we are still too young and we need to get some good vets in that will make a difference.
I would like to see the pick traded because the last thing we need is another young player with potential that will take 2-4 years to develop. We need to start making moves for now. Not years from now. Booker is you long and established. Ayton is young and growing. Bridges is young and growing. Jackson is young and growing. Oubre is young and growing.
I just think we are still too young and we need to get some good vets in that will make a difference.
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Shout out to my guy Bruno Fernando who is mentioned in the article among the most efficient 2pt shooters away from the rim. I like him as a Holmes type player but with potentially better hands.In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:21 pmThis is a long read, but it's good. https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/13/u ... on-clarke/
There's a ton of guys in this draft who I would have been thrilled to get in the second round last year. Still, a bunch of them are going to be productive NBA players.
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I'm pretty sure James Jones and the FO agree with you.SunsRIt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:55 amI want them to trade the pick for a PG or PF. Package deal or not. Preferably they would also send TJ Warren out too, his disappearing act every season is quite annoying(what exactly was wrong with him last year?)
I would like to see the pick traded because the last thing we need is another young player with potential that will take 2-4 years to develop. We need to start making moves for now. Not years from now. Booker is you long and established. Ayton is young and growing. Bridges is young and growing. Jackson is young and growing. Oubre is young and growing.
I just think we are still too young and we need to get some good vets in that will make a difference.
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With all the bad luck the Warriors had, I wonder if they might entertain trading Draymond. TJ Warren would be really good in their system I think. Maybe they might consider TJ, Jackson, and the #6? That can help rebuild their bench, add some guys on reasonable contracts, especially if they still give Klay and KD the max.
I think Draymond would be the perfect PF to put next to Ayton. It gives us a veteran with championship experience. I don't know, just thinking out loud.
I think Draymond would be the perfect PF to put next to Ayton. It gives us a veteran with championship experience. I don't know, just thinking out loud.
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Can he shoot though? We have to have a PF that can stretch the floor next to Ayton or it's not a good fit.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:30 pmWith all the bad luck the Warriors had, I wonder if they might entertain trading Draymond. TJ Warren would be really good in their system I think. Maybe they might consider TJ, Jackson, and the #6? That can help rebuild their bench, add some guys on reasonable contracts, especially if they still give Klay and KD the max.
I think Draymond would be the perfect PF to put next to Ayton. It gives us a veteran with championship experience. I don't know, just thinking out loud.
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I think so. I don't know his career stats, but I would be comfortable with Green shooting 3s. But he's a great defender and rebounder. I don't think I've seen teams sag off of him or dare him to shoot really.In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:34 pmCan he shoot though? We have to have a PF that can stretch the floor next to Ayton or it's not a good fit.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:30 pmWith all the bad luck the Warriors had, I wonder if they might entertain trading Draymond. TJ Warren would be really good in their system I think. Maybe they might consider TJ, Jackson, and the #6? That can help rebuild their bench, add some guys on reasonable contracts, especially if they still give Klay and KD the max.
I think Draymond would be the perfect PF to put next to Ayton. It gives us a veteran with championship experience. I don't know, just thinking out loud.
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Looking up stats....Draymond Green shot .285% from 3 last year shooting WIDE OPEN, and had a PER of 12.9 w/ a TS% of .526.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:00 pmI think so. I don't know his career stats, but I would be comfortable with Green shooting 3s. But he's a great defender and rebounder. I don't think I've seen teams sag off of him or dare him to shoot really.In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:34 pmCan he shoot though? We have to have a PF that can stretch the floor next to Ayton or it's not a good fit.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:30 pmWith all the bad luck the Warriors had, I wonder if they might entertain trading Draymond. TJ Warren would be really good in their system I think. Maybe they might consider TJ, Jackson, and the #6? That can help rebuild their bench, add some guys on reasonable contracts, especially if they still give Klay and KD the max.
I think Draymond would be the perfect PF to put next to Ayton. It gives us a veteran with championship experience. I don't know, just thinking out loud.
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Who to pick at 6
Then you didn’t watch the finals.wpmiller42 wrote:I think so. I don't know his career stats, but I would be comfortable with Green shooting 3s. But he's a great defender and rebounder. I don't think I've seen teams sag off of him or dare him to shoot really.In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:34 pmCan he shoot though? We have to have a PF that can stretch the floor next to Ayton or it's not a good fit.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:30 pmWith all the bad luck the Warriors had, I wonder if they might entertain trading Draymond. TJ Warren would be really good in their system I think. Maybe they might consider TJ, Jackson, and the #6? That can help rebuild their bench, add some guys on reasonable contracts, especially if they still give Klay and KD the max.
I think Draymond would be the perfect PF to put next to Ayton. It gives us a veteran with championship experience. I don't know, just thinking out loud.
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No on Draymond. He’s in the starting to phone in the regular season stage of his career.
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Also, the Warriors aren't letting Draymond go.
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I don't think Draymond makes sense for us. His 3-point shooting has been just wretched lately, and as others said, he has started coasting through the regular season. Plus I think he's gotten used to playing hard for contending teams. I'm not sure you get the same effort out of him if the team is under .500. Draymond is best on a playoff team and not a young awful one like ours.
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I'd happily take Draymond on this team, even with his poor shooting.
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This 100%. Especially the part about playing for a winning/contending team. Imagine a situation like Ariza, except with Draymond's mouth.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:16 pmI don't think Draymond makes sense for us. His 3-point shooting has been just wretched lately, and as others said, he has started coasting through the regular season. Plus I think he's gotten used to playing hard for contending teams. I'm not sure you get the same effort out of him if the team is under .500. Draymond is best on a playoff team and not a young awful one like ours.
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No to Draymond. Besides his dumb facial expression and constant complaining, I have zero confidence that he'd play hard or ever showed his highest level if not surrounded by alltime talent.
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Is there anyone who “sources” hasn’t said we’re interested in?
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Why would we want Hunter? He plays a position at which we have a logjam. Why would we take Garland, who would help us inevitably, and then send him to LA for Hunter, who we don't need?