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Seeing a lot of takes online that amount to, "They should shut up and dribble." It's sad. The right to peacefully protest isn't as respected as it used to be.
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It is never respected if it goes counter to your beliefs. It wasn't respected during the suffrage movement. It wasn't during the civil rights marches in the 60s. It wasn't during the vietnam protests. It isn't now. For a fundamental right, we don't treat it like one.
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Close--maybe they can volunteer through this program.
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/i ... to-recruit
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The rioting and violence certainly hasn't helped, but from day one there was a disdain for the protesters by a large segment of the population.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:05 amIt is never respected if it goes counter to your beliefs. It wasn't respected during the suffrage movement. It wasn't during the civil rights marches in the 60s. It wasn't during the vietnam protests. It isn't now. For a fundamental right, we don't treat it like one.
The players are an easy target to criticize when they express their opinions because the people criticizing them feel their own opinions are just as valid. But does this mean a famous person shouldn't take advantage of the opportunities to get their opinions out there?
Unfortunately we have a hard time as a society when it comes to seeing someone else's opinion - we don't seem to have the ability to let someone state their and then either choose to ignore it or discuss it civilly. Having a lot of nutjobs out there spouting crackpot opinions doesn't help, but there are also a lot of keyboard warriors adding fuel to the fire. And it happens on both sides of nearly everything. And anyone who doesn't think so is fooling themselves.
Freedom of speech is pointless unless you allow differing viewpoints to be heard and judged on their own merit. Americans have always been quick to squash anything that can be labeled as "unpatriotic" or "anti-American." And those are some of the most important things that free speech protects.
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Yeah, I usually fall on the side of not using your platform "for good" is more dereliction than using it. Of course, how you define "good" is subjective.The Bobster wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:33 amThe rioting and violence certainly hasn't helped, but from day one there was a disdain for the protesters by a large segment of the population.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:05 amIt is never respected if it goes counter to your beliefs. It wasn't respected during the suffrage movement. It wasn't during the civil rights marches in the 60s. It wasn't during the vietnam protests. It isn't now. For a fundamental right, we don't treat it like one.
The players are an easy target to criticize when they express their opinions because the people criticizing them feel their own opinions are just as valid. But does this mean a famous person shouldn't take advantage of the opportunities to get their opinions out there?
Unfortunately we have a hard time as a society when it comes to seeing someone else's opinion - we don't seem to have the ability to let someone state their and then either choose to ignore it or discuss it civilly. Having a lot of nutjobs out there spouting crackpot opinions doesn't help, but there are also a lot of keyboard warriors adding fuel to the fire. And it happens on both sides of nearly everything. And anyone who doesn't think so is fooling themselves.
Freedom of speech is pointless unless you allow differing viewpoints to be heard and judged on their own merit. Americans have always been quick to squash anything that can be labeled as "unpatriotic" or "anti-American." And those are some of the most important things that free speech protects.
Also, on the 2nd bolded part: A lot of people lately don't seem to understand that freedom to say something does not mean freedom from consequences for what you say.
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A couple day delay probably doesn't do much in the grand scheme of things. It makes a news cycle or two. If they have a plan for how they think they can impact the world (and encourage their bosses to do the same), I hope they can find a way to make it happen. Doc's speech was pretty clear, and I don't know how anyone could listen to what he said and disagree with the fundamentals of it.
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It’s also a great way to recruit poll workers.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:29 amClose--maybe they can volunteer through this program.
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/i ... to-recruit
“Are you crazy?! You think I’m going to go for seven years and try to get there? You enjoy the 2030 draft picks that we have holding? I want to try to see the game today.” — Ish 3/13/25
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Agreed.Cap wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:36 amIt’s also a great way to recruit poll workers.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:29 amClose--maybe they can volunteer through this program.
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/i ... to-recruit
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By the way, cap, you can probably delete this part of your signature now...
JJ will be better than KP when all is said and done [in 2020]. Mark it. — AIG, with Indy betting against
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I'm seeing tweets saying that the players have made the decision to resume the playoffs after tonight. Will post a link when I can find a good one.
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Yep, it just means the government can't throw them in jail.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:19 amYeah, I usually fall on the side of not using your platform "for good" is more dereliction than using it. Of course, how you define "good" is subjective.
Also, on the 2nd bolded part: A lot of people lately don't seem to understand that freedom to say something does not mean freedom from consequences for what you say.
No protection against the public calling them an ass though!
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Not a bad idea actually.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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Cancel culture comes to phx-suns.net.
“Are you crazy?! You think I’m going to go for seven years and try to get there? You enjoy the 2030 draft picks that we have holding? I want to try to see the game today.” — Ish 3/13/25
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Show up to vote and LeBron James asks for your autograph. It’s like a Yakov Smirnoff joke.
“Are you crazy?! You think I’m going to go for seven years and try to get there? You enjoy the 2030 draft picks that we have holding? I want to try to see the game today.” — Ish 3/13/25
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Ha. Worm hasn't said a thing to me about our bet since the Suns surpassed it even in a shortened season.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
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"Cool is getting us blown out!"
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One thing to remember is a restricted free agent; I don't think you can make Boucher a reasonable offer and Ujiri doesn't match it.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:54 pmMostly because he'll be cheaper.INFORMER wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:43 pmWhy do you prefer Boucher?Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:14 pmI'd rather go after Chris Boucher than Christian Wood.
Wood will be paid like a starter, which I don't have much of a problem with, but I'd rather the Suns give Cam Johnson a run at the starting PF spot.
I also think a Saric and Boucher front court off the bench could work well.
Wood is the better, more complete player. I am willing to continue with Cam at the 4, but Wood gives you so much more diversity on the offensive end, especially with being able to give him minutes at the 5. He really is the perfect fit for the Suns.
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BTW, the playoffs started up again. Bucks finished off the Magic in 5 after losing the first game. OKC/Rockets on now.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
-Shaheen Holloway
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
-Shaheen Holloway