Simmons...Suns...What if?

Discussion of the league and of our favorite team.
Post Reply
User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 39642
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Mood:

Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by Superbone »



Two minutes in. A nice little recap of Suns' history and a series of "what ifs" that could have changed Suns history. Followed by his "why not" the Suns could win the NBA championship this year.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.

User avatar
pickle
Posts: 3433
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:10 pm

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by pickle »

These what if games are painful... one of the podcasts I listen to did a 10 worst draft picks of the last 5 years review, and Suns had 4 of them...

User avatar
Indy
Posts: 19339
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:21 pm
Contact:

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by Indy »

pickle wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:32 pm
These what if games are painful... one of the podcasts I listen to did a 10 worst draft picks of the last 5 years review, and Suns had 4 of them...
Impressive!

User avatar
Split T
Posts: 29839
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:51 am
Location: Utah

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by Split T »

pickle wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:32 pm
These what if games are painful... one of the podcasts I listen to did a 10 worst draft picks of the last 5 years review, and Suns had 4 of them...
4 seems excessive...Bender and Jackson are fair. I’m sure Chriss was on there, but I bet there’s been worse. Who was the 4th? Unless they just went taking Ayton over Luka.

User avatar
pickle
Posts: 3433
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:10 pm

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by pickle »

Actually Bender barely made it in there. I guess with these lists, they consider who you objectively could have / should have drafted at that spot, not just straight up busts. Bagley was consensus #1 in that list, and Ayton was not far behind and I tend to agree with them. Stix made it because we could have and should have taken Haliburton. Jackson because we needed a point guard and Fox was right there. And then Bender.

User avatar
Split T
Posts: 29839
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:51 am
Location: Utah

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by Split T »

pickle wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:19 pm
Actually Bender barely made it in there. I guess with these lists, they consider who you objectively could have / should have drafted at that spot, not just straight up busts. Bagley was consensus #1 in that list, and Ayton was not far behind and I tend to agree with them. Stix made it because we could have and should have taken Haliburton. Jackson because we needed a point guard and Fox was right there. And then Bender.
Forgot about Stix...seems a little early to be grading that pick though.

User avatar
pickle
Posts: 3433
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:10 pm

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by pickle »

Yeah, again, along the same lines, it's not a testament on whether Stix will become a good player, but rather Haliburton was the perfect guy for us, and everyone who knew anything about the NBA thought he was a great fit for the Suns...

LazarusLong
Posts: 3252
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:58 pm

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by LazarusLong »

Simmons is a bit slipshod on his facts.
Hawkins first season with the Suns was 69-70, not "72" as he said in his podcast.
Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...

LazarusLong
Posts: 3252
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:58 pm

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by LazarusLong »

He also glosses over the 78-79 Suns.
In the "what if" category, Suns were up 3-2 on the Sonics.
Sonics win the last two games, and then dominate the Bullets (Wizards) in the championship series.
Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...

User avatar
Charlie Smithy!
Posts: 1746
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:01 pm

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by Charlie Smithy! »

LazarusLong wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:58 am
He also glosses over the 78-79 Suns.
In the "what if" category, Suns were up 3-2 on the Sonics.
Sonics win the last two games, and then dominate the Bullets (Wizards) in the championship series.
I guess I have to ask the obvious question, seeing how I wasn't around. What happened to the Suns in those last two games that caused them to drop the 3-2 lead?

User avatar
The Bobster
Posts: 7493
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:04 pm
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by The Bobster »

Adams missed game six and they lost by a point at home, then he was back for game seven, but a costly turnover by Walter Davis in the last minute cost them and they lost the game by four on the road.

Adams missed three of the seven games and Truck Robinson had a terrible series.

Plus, Seattle was a very, very good team. They won two more games during the regular season and had lost in the Finals to Washington the year before.
Author of The Basketball Draft Fact Book: A History of Professional Basketball's College Drafts
Available from Scarecrow Press at - https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780810890695

LazarusLong
Posts: 3252
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:58 pm

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by LazarusLong »

Adams had a bum ankle much of the playoffs.
I remember Joel Kramer playing major minutes in the KC series, which the Suns won handily.

I think Joe Gilmartin observed that Truck turned into a underpowered Jeep in the Seattle series ...
Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 39642
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Mood:

Re: Simmons...Suns...What if?

Post by Superbone »

LazarusLong wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:48 pm
Adams had a bum ankle much of the playoffs.
I remember Joel Kramer playing major minutes in the KC series, which the Suns won handily.

I think Joe Gilmartin observed that Truck turned into a underpowered Jeep in the Seattle series ...
Good ol' Joe.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.

Post Reply