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I was like yeah right lol but this is actually true. There were some times I thought DA could challenge persons at the rim against Lakers but we really need him on the floor and out of foul trouble

Payne avg 1 blk per game is something else. Mikal is next at 0.9
Totals Cam P - 7, Mikal n Jae - 6, Torrey - 5, DA - 4
Obviously in seven games you would like to see DA have a bigger total but not gonna harp on it too much. Just somewhere he needs to grow but we all know how well he doing overall so far

So yea shoutout to The Spark Plug tho 🙂

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Split T wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:16 pm
I don’t have a problem with Thibs winning, I’d rather win playoff series and I’m sure Monty agrees.
There is also some sort of streak, where no winner of CotY remains with his teams over two years after winning it, I’m pretty sure I read something along this lines.

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bajanguy008 wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:05 pm
I was like yeah right lol but this is actually true. There were some times I thought DA could challenge persons at the rim against Lakers but we really need him on the floor and out of foul trouble

Payne avg 1 blk per game is something else. Mikal is next at 0.9
Totals Cam P - 7, Mikal n Jae - 6, Torrey - 5, DA - 4
Obviously in seven games you would like to see DA have a bigger total but not gonna harp on it too much. Just somewhere he needs to grow but we all know how well he doing overall so far

So yea shoutout to The Spark Plug tho 🙂
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Aztec Sunsfan wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:15 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:16 pm
I don’t have a problem with Thibs winning, I’d rather win playoff series and I’m sure Monty agrees.
There is also some sort of streak, where no winner of CotY remains with his teams over two years after winning it, I’m pretty sure I read something along this lines.
There’s been quite a few…the coaches who’ve won coach of the year and are still with the team they won(PopovichX3, Kerr, Budenholzer, Nurse, and Thibs) The last 3 are the last 3 winners and there is honestly probably a decent chance Bud gets fired if this series doesn’t turn around for Milwaukee. So I guess Pop and Kerr are the only ones who’ve broken the COTY curse

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Split T wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:27 pm
Aztec Sunsfan wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:15 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:16 pm
I don’t have a problem with Thibs winning, I’d rather win playoff series and I’m sure Monty agrees.
There is also some sort of streak, where no winner of CotY remains with his teams over two years after winning it, I’m pretty sure I read something along this lines.
There’s been quite a few…the coaches who’ve won coach of the year and are still with the team they won(PopovichX3, Kerr, Budenholzer, Nurse, and Thibs) The last 3 are the last 3 winners and there is honestly probably a decent chance Bud gets fired if this series doesn’t turn around for Milwaukee. So I guess Pop and Kerr are the only ones who’ve broken the COTY curse
Probably won't happen because of how outspoken he is, but when Pop retires the coaching award should be named after him.

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That would be great, my second best perhaps, is The Jerry Sloan CotY Award, to repair taking him for granted and actually never naming him winner. He never won a championship, granted, but how many CotY actually do as well?

I'm pretty sure most of them fails to do it on the year they are enshrined, so its fitting. :D
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Indy wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:10 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:27 pm
Aztec Sunsfan wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:15 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:16 pm
I don’t have a problem with Thibs winning, I’d rather win playoff series and I’m sure Monty agrees.
There is also some sort of streak, where no winner of CotY remains with his teams over two years after winning it, I’m pretty sure I read something along this lines.
There’s been quite a few…the coaches who’ve won coach of the year and are still with the team they won(PopovichX3, Kerr, Budenholzer, Nurse, and Thibs) The last 3 are the last 3 winners and there is honestly probably a decent chance Bud gets fired if this series doesn’t turn around for Milwaukee. So I guess Pop and Kerr are the only ones who’ve broken the COTY curse
Probably won't happen because of how outspoken he is, but when Pop retires the coaching award should be named after him.
The trophy is already named after Red Auerbach, I believe.
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The Bobster wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:35 pm
Indy wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:10 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:27 pm
Aztec Sunsfan wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:15 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:16 pm
I don’t have a problem with Thibs winning, I’d rather win playoff series and I’m sure Monty agrees.
There is also some sort of streak, where no winner of CotY remains with his teams over two years after winning it, I’m pretty sure I read something along this lines.
There’s been quite a few…the coaches who’ve won coach of the year and are still with the team they won(PopovichX3, Kerr, Budenholzer, Nurse, and Thibs) The last 3 are the last 3 winners and there is honestly probably a decent chance Bud gets fired if this series doesn’t turn around for Milwaukee. So I guess Pop and Kerr are the only ones who’ve broken the COTY curse
Probably won't happen because of how outspoken he is, but when Pop retires the coaching award should be named after him.
The trophy is already named after Red Auerbach, I believe.
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50 Landmark Moments in Suns History (mostly good, a few bad) -

1968 - Richard Bloch group awarded franchise
1968 - Hire Jerry Colangelo as General Manager
1968 - Select Gail Goodrich & Dick Van Arsdale in expansion draft
1969 - Lose coin flip for Lew Alcindor
1969 - Sign Connie Hawkins
1969 - Trade for Paul Silas
1970 - Hire Cotton Fitzsimmons as coach
1972 - Sign Charlie Scott
1972 - Hire Al McCoy as broadcaster
1973 - Hire John MacLeod as coach
1975 - Trade for Paul Westphal
1975 - Draft Alvan Adams
1976 - Play in NBA Championship Series against Boston
1976 - Alvan Adams is named NBA Rookie of the Year
1977 - Draft Walter Davis
1978 - Walter Davis is named NBA Rookie of the Year
1979 - Trade for Truck Robinson
1980 - Trade for Dennis Johnson
1980 - Draft Larry Nance
1980 - The Gorilla makes his debut
1986 - Draft Jeff Hornacek
1986 - Drug investigation
1987 - Trade for Kevin Johnson
1987 - Jerry Colangelo group buys team
1988 - Hire Cotton Fitzsimmons as coach and Paul Westphal as eventual coach
1988 - Draft Dan Majerle
1988 - Sign Tom Chambers
1992 - Trade for Charles Barkley
1992 - Move into America West Arena
1993 - Play in NBA Finals against Chicago
1993 - Charles Barkley is named NBA Most Valuable Player
1995 - Draft Michael Finley
1996 - Trade for Jason Kidd
1997 - Trade for Antonio McDyess
1999 - Draft Shawn Marion
2001 - Trade for Stephon Marbury
2002 - Draft Amare Stoudemire
2003 - Amare Stoudemire is named NBA Rookie of the Year
2003 - Hire Mike D'Antoni as coach
2004 - Robert Sarver group buys team
2004 - Sign Steve Nash
2005 - Steve Nash is named NBA Most Valuable Player
2006 - Steve Nash is named NBA Most Valuable Player
2008 - Trade for Shaquille O'Neal
2012 - Sign Goran Dragic
2015 - Draft Devin Booker
2018 - Draft Deandre Ayton & trade for Mikal Bridges
2018 - Hire James Jones as General Manger
2019 - Hire Monty Williams as coach
2020 - Trade for Chris Paul
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I had forgotten that Marion and Amare were that many years apart...

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I remember when they drafted Marion and they played a gag on him. They set up Marion as a professional bike taxi driver down town as part of the Suns pre game to see if anyone would recognize him. He picked up these two guys and started to drive them to their destination. If I remember it correctly the two guys start talking about what a horrible pick Marion was in the draft and Marion starts defending himself posing as a taxi driver.

Mario “I heard he was real good”

Passenger “He’s a stiff.”

What Marion didn’t know was that the two guys were plants who were intentionally talking smack to see what Marions reaction would be for the pre game entertainment.

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Nodack wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:52 pm
I remember when they drafted Marion and they played a gag on him. They set up Marion as a professional bike taxi driver down town as part of the Suns pre game to see if anyone would recognize him. He picked up these two guys and started to drive them to their destination. If I remember it correctly the two guys start talking about what a horrible pick Marion was in the draft and Marion starts defending himself posing as a taxi driver.

Mario “I heard he was real good”

Passenger “He’s a stiff.”

What Marion didn’t know was that the two guys were plants who were intentionally talking smack to see what Marions reaction would be for the pre game entertainment.
I think of that segment very often.

The other thing about those guys is that they were HUGE. Like the two of them had to be pushing 600 pounds. I am betting nobody would let a rookie get on a pedi-cab and try and pull people around like that anymore.

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Anyone have access to this?

How Chris Paul and the Phoenix Suns are flummoxing the NBA with the league's most complex pick-and-roll
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/ ... -pick-roll
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Well this is cool 8-)
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I enjoyed the beginning of the article. Sure would love to see the rest of it.
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Superbone wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:18 am
I enjoyed the beginning of the article. Sure would love to see the rest of it.
Just costs you $72 a year... :roll:

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Indy wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:20 am
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:18 am
I enjoyed the beginning of the article. Sure would love to see the rest of it.
Just costs you $72 a year... :roll:
True, but I'm not going to pay that for one article. Not enough content of interest to me to pay a subscription.
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Superbone wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:24 am
Indy wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:20 am
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:18 am
I enjoyed the beginning of the article. Sure would love to see the rest of it.
Just costs you $72 a year... :roll:
True, but I'm not going to pay that for one article. Not enough content of interest to me to pay a subscription.
Oh, I completely agree. Espn shouldn't get a dime from me because I think they suck. But I am stuck paying them through Cox subscriber fees.

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