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We haven't really talked much on here about Biden's COVID vaccine mandates. What do you folks think? Was it the right thing to do? Will it get struck down in court?
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I don't see it as anything different than requiring MMR shots for soldiers and students and employees that has already been in place for a long, long time.
Jacobson is the big SCOTUS case regarding this and it was over 100 years ago and hasn't been chipped away at since (unlike many others). So I would think it would survive.
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I am in favor of the mandates.
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It is so depressing that vaccine mandates are even necessary. What is wrong with us?
“Are you crazy?! You think I’m going to go for seven years and try to get there? You enjoy the 2030 draft picks that we have holding? I want to try to see the game today.” — Ish 3/13/25
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It predates Republicans. There was an Anti-Vaccination League fighting against mandatory small pox vaccines in the 19th century.
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Yeah but it was (rightly) considered a fringe group of idiots; it wasn't 1/3 to 1/2 of the country falling for it. And it didn't have the country's #1 cable TV network constantly fearmongering about vaccines out of a cynical effort to hurt the approval rating of the enemy party's President.
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By the way, we are back up over 2000 dead Americans from COVID every day. Every day. At a time when there is a vaccine for the disease, which is freely available, as in $0, and you can get it at any random pharmacy with no wait. 2000 dead a day. So every day and a half we've got as many dead as 9/11. Every 3 minutes as many people die from COVID as died in Benghazi, which we did 11 investigations about, but whatever.
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"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge..."
--Isaac Asimov
Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...
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LazarusLong wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:48 pm"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge..."
--Isaac Asimov
"There are 3 rules I live by: never get less than 12 hours sleep, never play cards with a guy with the same first name as a city & never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Everything else is cream cheese."
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You Republicans really do hate Mueller don’t you? Is it because he stood up to Trump?
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You think my post was about Mueller?
"There are 3 rules I live by: never get less than 12 hours sleep, never play cards with a guy with the same first name as a city & never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Everything else is cream cheese."
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What does Asimov's son's extreme perversity have to do with Asimov's quote?
Just a fun fact?
Just a fun fact?
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
-Shaheen Holloway
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
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Yep, just an interesting thing I heard about him this weekend, and when Laz posted his quote, I thought I would share. It only pertains to Isaac's post as Isaac was very famous, and David was his son. Mueller doesn't sound like a great guy though.
"There are 3 rules I live by: never get less than 12 hours sleep, never play cards with a guy with the same first name as a city & never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Everything else is cream cheese."
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It’s pretty sad and horrible, I’ll give you that. Not only does he have a child pornography collection, but it’s the largest in California history!!!
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
-Shaheen Holloway
"Cool is getting us blown out!"
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I'm trying to fact-check this story. I did find some sites talking about Asimov's son being arrested on child porn charges. Here's one from SFGate from 1998:
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/ ... 099867.php
Apparently they seized his computer and hard drives to look through them for offending material. The article says that he might not face prison time because the prosecution may not have had any evidence of intent to sell or distribute child pornography. The article says that mere possession of such materials is only a misdemeanor that only merits a fine. It sounds like Asimov received in-home confinement and a fine and other minor penalties for his behavior.
I'm no defender of child porn by any stretch. But I am a defender of innocent until proven guilty. I don't know what wrongdoing Mueller supposedly committed here; if they had evidence that merited further charges, presumably they would have presented it and prosecuted Asimov? Do we have any clear indicator that Mueller or another prosecutor was derelict in their duties in this case?
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/ ... 099867.php
Apparently they seized his computer and hard drives to look through them for offending material. The article says that he might not face prison time because the prosecution may not have had any evidence of intent to sell or distribute child pornography. The article says that mere possession of such materials is only a misdemeanor that only merits a fine. It sounds like Asimov received in-home confinement and a fine and other minor penalties for his behavior.
I'm no defender of child porn by any stretch. But I am a defender of innocent until proven guilty. I don't know what wrongdoing Mueller supposedly committed here; if they had evidence that merited further charges, presumably they would have presented it and prosecuted Asimov? Do we have any clear indicator that Mueller or another prosecutor was derelict in their duties in this case?
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Yes, I do.
I will say I had a neighbor down the street who was busted by the FBI for child porn on his computer and he did serve years in prison.
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Is that the only thing you found on the story? Here are some of things I found, including not a great profile of Isaac.
https://milo.net/48192/robert-mueller-l ... walk-free/
I know this one has more to it than just child porn, but he got a life sentence recently.
Profile of Isaac Asimov
https://lithub.com/what-to-make-of-isaa ... y-old-man/
https://milo.net/48192/robert-mueller-l ... walk-free/
I know this one has more to it than just child porn, but he got a life sentence recently.
Profile of Isaac Asimov
https://lithub.com/what-to-make-of-isaa ... y-old-man/
"There are 3 rules I live by: never get less than 12 hours sleep, never play cards with a guy with the same first name as a city & never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Everything else is cream cheese."
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I promise you it wasn't at all, but it was definitely a surprise bonus.
"There are 3 rules I live by: never get less than 12 hours sleep, never play cards with a guy with the same first name as a city & never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Everything else is cream cheese."
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The thread is about Covid. You turned it an anti Meuller ad.
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