Suns have a lot of expirings to throw around at more permanent solutions to positional problems, and even depth (as Jae and Dario give us none).
- KD5
- Conley
- Harrison Barnes
- Draymond Green
All seem interesting, though perhaps only Barnes is actually available now. KD will ask out again if things don't turn around sharp-ish, and I don't expect they will. At 6-1, the Suns don't have an urgent need (yet). But if Johnson, Payne, CP3 or Craig are out for any period of time, they will be.
One question though: is COnley part of Utah's long term plans? And with Paul's slow decline, should the Suns think about PG by committee?
And what Conley goes to Minnesota with Crowder (so much needed veteran leadership) D-Lo is sent to Phoenix, and we ship Shamet and Craig/ Payne to Utah with a 1st?
Damion Lee makes Shamet expendable, and D-Lo from the bench it’s a notorious upgrade over Payne. Then Phoenix sent Dario and the Craig/ Payne player let from the Utah trade fie Barnes, and we get:
CP3 / Booker / Mikal / Cam J / Ayton
D-Lo / Lee / Barnes / Landsale
DWJ / Okogie / Byombo
It’s not the KD home run, and I would prefer bringing Collins and Gordon, but it’s more likely this guys are available. ( There is a reason for that though)
I’ve thought about D-Lo…I wouldn’t give up a 1st for him though. 2 2nds, with one coming from Minny should be enough for Utah.
I'm down on D-Lo (as in not interested.) Like somebody else pointed out, you almost forget he's on the Wolves when we play them because his play is so...forgettable.
Ya but if all we’re giving up is Crowder/Saric/Shamet and a 2nd?
He’d be a bench guard for us and he’d play better here I think.
Suns have a lot of expirings to throw around at more permanent solutions to positional problems, and even depth (as Jae and Dario give us none).
- KD5
- Conley
- Harrison Barnes
- Draymond Green
All seem interesting, though perhaps only Barnes is actually available now. KD will ask out again if things don't turn around sharp-ish, and I don't expect they will. At 6-1, the Suns don't have an urgent need (yet). But if Johnson, Payne, CP3 or Craig are out for any period of time, they will be.
One question though: is COnley part of Utah's long term plans? And with Paul's slow decline, should the Suns think about PG by committee?
And what Conley goes to Minnesota with Crowder (so much needed veteran leadership) D-Lo is sent to Phoenix, and we ship Shamet and Craig/ Payne to Utah with a 1st?
Damion Lee makes Shamet expendable, and D-Lo from the bench it’s a notorious upgrade over Payne. Then Phoenix sent Dario and the Craig/ Payne player let from the Utah trade fie Barnes, and we get:
CP3 / Booker / Mikal / Cam J / Ayton
D-Lo / Lee / Barnes / Landsale
DWJ / Okogie / Byombo
It’s not the KD home run, and I would prefer bringing Collins and Gordon, but it’s more likely this guys are available. ( There is a reason for that though)
I’ve thought about D-Lo…I wouldn’t give up a 1st for him though. 2 2nds, with one coming from Minny should be enough for Utah.
I'm down on D-Lo (as in not interested.) Like somebody else pointed out, you almost forget he's on the Wolves when we play them because his play is so...forgettable.
Ya but if all we’re giving up is Crowder/Saric/Shamet and a 2nd?
He’d be a bench guard for us and he’d play better here I think.
Precisely my point, playing against other teams reserves should make him better, and as much as I'm usually prone to include ONE 1st if that is what gets a done deal, the madness on this recent trend of multiples picks and swap are just TOO MUCH future to hand out, specially for just one or two years of real control over a player.
Suns have a lot of expirings to throw around at more permanent solutions to positional problems, and even depth (as Jae and Dario give us none).
- KD5
- Conley
- Harrison Barnes
- Draymond Green
All seem interesting, though perhaps only Barnes is actually available now. KD will ask out again if things don't turn around sharp-ish, and I don't expect they will. At 6-1, the Suns don't have an urgent need (yet). But if Johnson, Payne, CP3 or Craig are out for any period of time, they will be.
One question though: is COnley part of Utah's long term plans? And with Paul's slow decline, should the Suns think about PG by committee?
And what Conley goes to Minnesota with Crowder (so much needed veteran leadership) D-Lo is sent to Phoenix, and we ship Shamet and Craig/ Payne to Utah with a 1st?
Damion Lee makes Shamet expendable, and D-Lo from the bench it’s a notorious upgrade over Payne. Then Phoenix sent Dario and the Craig/ Payne player let from the Utah trade fie Barnes, and we get:
CP3 / Booker / Mikal / Cam J / Ayton
D-Lo / Lee / Barnes / Landsale
DWJ / Okogie / Byombo
It’s not the KD home run, and I would prefer bringing Collins and Gordon, but it’s more likely this guys are available. ( There is a reason for that though)
I’ve thought about D-Lo…I wouldn’t give up a 1st for him though. 2 2nds, with one coming from Minny should be enough for Utah.
I'm down on D-Lo (as in not interested.) Like somebody else pointed out, you almost forget he's on the Wolves when we play them because his play is so...forgettable.
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I don’t think Shamet is redundant with Lee. Different players and very different impact on the court. I still like a lot of the guys on Utah, including the obvious gettable ones in Clarkson Olynyk and maybe Vanderbilt, and the two “building blocks” in Sexton and Markannen. At this point Sexton might be a bit more available than I originally thought?
I don’t think Shamet is redundant with Lee. Different players and very different impact on the court. I still like a lot of the guys on Utah, including the obvious gettable ones in Clarkson Olynyk and maybe Vanderbilt, and the two “building blocks” in Sexton and Markannen. At this point Sexton might be a bit more available than I originally thought?
Lee and Craig are closer to each other in terms of skillset/impact but it doesn't matter much because Lee's a 2/3 and Craig is primarily a 4 now. Someone like Coby White would be redundant with Payne, Seth Curry would be redundant with Shamet.
I don’t think Shamet is redundant with Lee. Different players and very different impact on the court. I still like a lot of the guys on Utah, including the obvious gettable ones in Clarkson Olynyk and maybe Vanderbilt, and the two “building blocks” in Sexton and Markannen. At this point Sexton might be a bit more available than I originally thought?
Lee and Craig are closer to each other in terms of skillset/impact but it doesn't matter much because Lee's a 2/3 and Craig is primarily a 4 now. Someone like Coby White would be redundant with Payne, Seth Curry would be redundant with Shamet.
Are either of them redundant if they are both flat out upgrades?
I do hope that in the longer run whomever takes over the team is not an asshole and knows how to play the human side of the game and we start getting some favorable whistle. I can’t help but think that a bit of lobbying might help us on this end given how guys like Cam, Shamet, and even Ayton are mostly in position but always on the wrong end of 50/50 calls.
