Big Shaqtus in his prime was better than the example player Wilt Chamberlain picked up and moved during a game back when he dominated a league full of white stiffs. I get he dominated his peers but when people think prime Shaq wouldn't have a chance, I question (not you Bone) if it's selective memory forgetting how dominant prime Shaq was.
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Prime Shaq was an unstoppable force…. Not to mention he destroyed how many baskets? Offense and defense wise he was insane.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:05 amBig Shaqtus in his prime was better than the example player Wilt Chamberlain picked up and moved during a game back when he dominated a league full of white stiffs. I get he dominated his peers but when people think prime Shaq wouldn't have a chance, I question (not you Bone) if it's selective memory forgetting how dominant prime Shaq was.
Shaqtus on the other hand was a shell of his former self…. I did happen to be at the game when he dove into the stands for a loose ball and about 2 rows cleared out
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Interesting. I wasn’t aware of Barkley’s beef with KD. Is he going to be butt hurt if KD does what he couldn’t?
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"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
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My favorite Wilt story was when Hall of Famer Gus Johnson of the Bullets (who was about the same size as Charles Barkley) decided he was going to dunk on Wilt and Wilt went and blocked his shot with such force it dislocated Johnson's shoulder.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:05 amBig Shaqtus in his prime was better than the example player Wilt Chamberlain picked up and moved during a game back when he dominated a league full of white stiffs. I get he dominated his peers but when people think prime Shaq wouldn't have a chance, I question (not you Bone) if it's selective memory forgetting how dominant prime Shaq was.
Wilt played against Hall of Fame centers Willis Reed, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell, Nate Thurmond, Walt Bellamy, Bob Lanier, Dave Cowens, Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes, Zelmo Beaty and Clyde Lovellette. Most of whom were, you know, African Americans.
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I know that I was making a big white stiff comment more as a joke. But the point still remains that prime Shaq was a force. I think more of a physical force than any of the greats you listed Wilt played against. I'm not saying Shaq was better in his prime. I'm simply saying that Wilt wouldn't just manhandle prime Shaq and have his way, dominating him. I think it would be somewhat competitive.The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:11 pmMy favorite Wilt story was when Hall of Famer Gus Johnson of the Bullets (who was about the same size as Charles Barkley) decided he was going to dunk on Wilt and Wilt went and blocked his shot with such force it dislocated Johnson's shoulder.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:05 amBig Shaqtus in his prime was better than the example player Wilt Chamberlain picked up and moved during a game back when he dominated a league full of white stiffs. I get he dominated his peers but when people think prime Shaq wouldn't have a chance, I question (not you Bone) if it's selective memory forgetting how dominant prime Shaq was.
Wilt played against Hall of Fame centers Willis Reed, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell, Nate Thurmond, Walt Bellamy, Bob Lanier, Dave Cowens, Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes, Zelmo Beaty and Clyde Lovellette. Most of whom were, you know, African Americans.
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If Shaq had stayed in shape his entire career he would be in the discussion for the greatest player ever.
But he didn't.
Wilt would match up with him physically like Yao and Sabonis did. Shaq would still get his, but he'd have to work for it. And defensively there's no copmparison between the two.
But he didn't.
Wilt would match up with him physically like Yao and Sabonis did. Shaq would still get his, but he'd have to work for it. And defensively there's no copmparison between the two.
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How dominant would Sabonis have been if we’d gotten him in his prime?The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:40 pmIf Shaq had stayed in shape his entire career he would be in the discussion for the greatest player ever.
But he didn't.
Wilt would match up with him physically like Yao and Sabonis did. Shaq would still get his, but he'd have to work for it. And defensively there's no copmparison between the two.
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He looked like a totally different person by the time he came to the NBA. He was unreal in his prime. He made David Robinson look tiny.Cap wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:15 pmHow dominant would Sabonis have been if we’d gotten him in his prime?The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:40 pmIf Shaq had stayed in shape his entire career he would be in the discussion for the greatest player ever.
But he didn't.
Wilt would match up with him physically like Yao and Sabonis did. Shaq would still get his, but he'd have to work for it. And defensively there's no copmparison between the two.
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It's funny how perspectives can change
Most people don't think much of KD personality and when asked about it over the years, I always would say I mainly check for if I like a guy's game
Going down the who people are off the court can sometimes be a tricky dynamic outside of when it's something very egregious that can't be ignored
So it's just been funny to me (maybe being a Homer) now he's a Sun or it could simply be that most interviews I've seen with KD before has been Playoffs (pre/post game) and he will always say very little if not be defensive and dismissive so not the best look
This just a random one but there been so much of these Chill/Smiling KD vids now that we have more access to him as Suns fans that it's interesting to see. Obviously though, it's about his demeanor if things don't go well which would be the telling sign
Most people don't think much of KD personality and when asked about it over the years, I always would say I mainly check for if I like a guy's game
Going down the who people are off the court can sometimes be a tricky dynamic outside of when it's something very egregious that can't be ignored
So it's just been funny to me (maybe being a Homer) now he's a Sun or it could simply be that most interviews I've seen with KD before has been Playoffs (pre/post game) and he will always say very little if not be defensive and dismissive so not the best look
This just a random one but there been so much of these Chill/Smiling KD vids now that we have more access to him as Suns fans that it's interesting to see. Obviously though, it's about his demeanor if things don't go well which would be the telling sign
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He would have been right there in the discussion.Cap wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:15 pmHow dominant would Sabonis have been if we’d gotten him in his prime?The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:40 pmIf Shaq had stayed in shape his entire career he would be in the discussion for the greatest player ever.
But he didn't.
Wilt would match up with him physically like Yao and Sabonis did. Shaq would still get his, but he'd have to work for it. And defensively there's no copmparison between the two.
His basketball IQ was off the charts even when he had lost all his athleticism.
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Maintaining any level of privacy has to be a struggle for athletes, actors, politicians, ect.bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:07 amIt's funny how perspectives can change
Most people don't think much of KD personality and when asked about it over the years, I always would say I mainly check for if I like a guy's game
Going down the who people are off the court can sometimes be a tricky dynamic outside of when it's something very egregious that can't be ignored
So it's just been funny to me (maybe being a Homer) now he's a Sun or it could simply be that most interviews I've seen with KD before has been Playoffs (pre/post game) and he will always say very little if not be defensive and dismissive so not the best look
This just a random one but there been so much of these Chill/Smiling KD vids now that we have more access to him as Suns fans that it's interesting to see. Obviously though, it's about his demeanor if things don't go well which would be the telling sign
The public just has an apetite for sensational details on any famous person.
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