Trump 2024

[In2ition]

I'm not trying to poke you or call you out, Mori, and I believe that you are being entirely honest about not thinking about it. I just want to point out one thing, that you had a complete meltdown when the media told you that Trump was putting kids in cages. Nevermind that thos cages were built by the Obama regime. And you didn't readdress it when Biden did the same when he came into office. It's just another example of the media dealing out their "15 minutes of hate", and trying their best to divide us and hate each other.

I was quite upset about kids in cages. I don't think this inconsistent with not thinking about the border very much. My point is, I don't think the border is a "disaster" or "crisis" that merits panic, nor merits brutally mistreating people apprehended near the border by putting them into cages and separating them from their families.

This is a tough situation. A lot of times, the kids weren't theirs. Do you just take the word of what could be traffickers? What is worse? Allowing a child to be abused and sold, or make sure they are the child's parents? People coming over illegally and ditch their IDs should be trusted to say who they are and the kids belong to them? Either way is tragic.

[In2ition]

Is it completely sacrilegious for me to say that I almost never think about the border in any capacity? I just don't see any impact of the border on me or my life. I do care, in the abstract, about having a secure border and not letting things get too crazy. But based on the way the border is talked about on Fox etc., you would think that the US is an absolute hellhole of drugs, crime, and chaos if the border changes a bit under "blue" policies. Is it? Do you guys see and feel effects of border policy changes that impact your lives?

You don't live in Arizona.

Arizona is an absolute hellhole of meth. Almost every homeless guy or girl I come across is on meth and I see at multiple fentanyl overdose/abusers every day. They're 50 cents a pill on the streets.

This seems to check out. I've seen more than my share of the walking dead in Phoenix.

[specialsauce]

Is it completely sacrilegious for me to say that I almost never think about the border in any capacity? I just don't see any impact of the border on me or my life. I do care, in the abstract, about having a secure border and not letting things get too crazy. But based on the way the border is talked about on Fox etc., you would think that the US is an absolute hellhole of drugs, crime, and chaos if the border changes a bit under "blue" policies. Is it? Do you guys see and feel effects of border policy changes that impact your lives?

You don't live in Arizona.

Arizona is an absolute hellhole of meth. Almost every homeless guy or girl I come across is on meth and I see at multiple fentanyl overdose/abusers every day. They're 50 cents a pill on the streets.

This seems to check out. I've seen more than my share of the walking dead in Phoenix.

I don't know where it's coming from, I can't say necessarily the drugs are coming in from the border.

[virtual9mm]

I'm not trying to poke you or call you out, Mori, and I believe that you are being entirely honest about not thinking about it. I just want to point out one thing, that you had a complete meltdown when the media told you that Trump was putting kids in cages. Nevermind that thos cages were built by the Obama regime. And you didn't readdress it when Biden did the same when he came into office. It's just another example of the media dealing out their "15 minutes of hate", and trying their best to divide us and hate each other.

I was quite upset about kids in cages. I don't think this inconsistent with not thinking about the border very much. My point is, I don't think the border is a "disaster" or "crisis" that merits panic, nor merits brutally mistreating people apprehended near the border by putting them into cages and separating them from their families.

Yes. This. After what happened with this, I just can't claim that the US still has the moral high ground with regards to China on the Xinjiang issue.

[Nodack]

There was a difference.

The Obama administration separated migrant children from families under certain limited circumstances, like when the child’s safety appeared at risk or when the parent had a serious criminal history.

But family separations as a matter of routine came about because of Trump’s “zero tolerance” enforcement policy, which he eventually suspended because of the uproar.

Obama had no such policy.

https://apnews.com/article/election-202 ... becfc7a5f3

[Nodack]

I looked up the Xinjiang conflict. It sounds worse than anything we did to the immigrants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_conflict
In recent years, the Chinese Communist Party under Xi Jinping Administration's policy has been marked by much harsher policies, including mass surveillance and the incarceration without trial of over one million Uyghurs and other Muslim minority ethnic groups in internment camps.Numerous reports have stated that many of these minorities have been used for prison labour.

[Nodack]

Did Musk say he was going to send Trump 45 million dollars a month towards his election? That’s what everyone said yesterday.

Musk says he’s not donating $45 million a month to Trump
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... -to-trump/


When is that Musk/Zuckerburg fight happening? Oh, it’s not happening. Musk was bluffing.

Mark Zuckerberg is tired of waiting around for his cage match with Elon Musk.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/14/mark-zu ... match.html

[virtual9mm]

I looked up the Xinjiang conflict. It sounds worse than anything we did to the immigrants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_conflict
In recent years, the Chinese Communist Party under Xi Jinping Administration's policy has been marked by much harsher policies, including mass surveillance and the incarceration without trial of over one million Uyghurs and other Muslim minority ethnic groups in internment camps.Numerous reports have stated that many of these minorities have been used for prison labour.

Same stuff, just at greater scale.

[Mori Chu]

I'm sure he's used the word. But unless they have a tape of it, it won't hurt him. (Cmon, NBC, release those unedited Apprentice tapes! )

[Superbone]

His kin sure don't like him, do they? Can you blame 'em?

[Kryptonic]

[Nodack]

Oil Billionaires Bet on Trump’s Energy Agenda
Donald Trump’s plan to bolster fossil fuels and weaken environmental agencies draws support from powerful oil-and-gas backers
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/ ... s-1cbc98f6

[Mori Chu]

There is a dumb meme going around on Twitter right now where libs are saying that JD Vance had sex with his couch. I room my eyes at this stuff, but whatever floats their boat.

[virtual9mm]

There is a dumb meme going around on Twitter right now where libs are saying that JD Vance had sex with his couch. I room my eyes at this stuff, but whatever floats their boat.

No, this is not only stoopid but sets a precedent for conservatives to do something even dumber. It shouldn't be tolerated.

[TOO]

Because saying Kamala Harris sucked her way to the top wasn't dumb enough?

[Mori Chu]

No, this is not only stoopid but sets a precedent for conservatives to do something even dumber. It shouldn't be tolerated.

I agree with your sentiment, but I don't really think there is any centralized effort to propagate this. It's a dumb Twitter meme being shared by random people. I don't think the Dems in general are supporting or encouraging this. I certainly hope no official Kamala accounts reshare this stuff.

[Nodack]

The dumb side to politics.

[BigLewy]

At least make it believable and say he screwed an apple pie or something.

[Superbone]

Wow!



I wonder how Bill Maher feels about this?

[Nodack]

I say people with children should face the consequences of reality and not get the same voice in our Democracy because they are too busy raising children and shouldn’t be allowed to vote. See how easy that is?