Game Day: Hornets (8-27) @ Suns (18-19), Sun 1/12/25

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Re: Game Day: Hornets (8-27) @ Suns (18-19), Sun 1/12/25

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TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 am
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:39 am
SunsSince92 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:55 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:11 pm
Wonder if it’s a coincidence Tyus has been struggling as Booker has got it going lately…I was never as anti point book as some, but probably need to split the Book/Tyus minutes as much as possible
I agree, Tyus just feels like a bit of an afterthought out there. He isn't the floor general I was hoping he'd be and just seems happy to defer to Book and KD which isn't what we need. KD is just a walking turnover and I just don't see Booker as a point guard, he makes too many bone headed plays/passes.
Agreed. Jones needs to handle the ball or else he is questionable as a net positive since you are left with a midget spot up 3pt shooter with a floater and a problem on defense. We were doing much more of Jones as the floor general at the beginning of the season, and it showed good results. Need to get back to that as the next step towards correcting our rotation, after removing Nurkic (also need to start Oso) and playing Beal off the bench.
I don't think Booker can excel with Jimmy he's as the floor general. He doesn't draw or orchestrate an offense like CP3 did so Booker is just relegated to spot up guy with Jones and it's pretty apparent that Booker is far better point Booking the offense in large stretches.
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Ring_Wanted wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:36 am
TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 am
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:39 am
SunsSince92 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:55 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:11 pm
Wonder if it’s a coincidence Tyus has been struggling as Booker has got it going lately…I was never as anti point book as some, but probably need to split the Book/Tyus minutes as much as possible
I agree, Tyus just feels like a bit of an afterthought out there. He isn't the floor general I was hoping he'd be and just seems happy to defer to Book and KD which isn't what we need. KD is just a walking turnover and I just don't see Booker as a point guard, he makes too many bone headed plays/passes.
Agreed. Jones needs to handle the ball or else he is questionable as a net positive since you are left with a midget spot up 3pt shooter with a floater and a problem on defense. We were doing much more of Jones as the floor general at the beginning of the season, and it showed good results. Need to get back to that as the next step towards correcting our rotation, after removing Nurkic (also need to start Oso) and playing Beal off the bench.
I don't think Booker can excel with Jimmy he's as the floor general. He doesn't draw or orchestrate an offense like CP3 did so Booker is just relegated to spot up guy with Jones and it's pretty apparent that Booker is far better point Booking the offense in large stretches.
Jimmy?
Tyus lol. I was very stoned. 😂
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TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:08 am
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:36 am
TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 am
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:39 am
SunsSince92 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:55 pm


I agree, Tyus just feels like a bit of an afterthought out there. He isn't the floor general I was hoping he'd be and just seems happy to defer to Book and KD which isn't what we need. KD is just a walking turnover and I just don't see Booker as a point guard, he makes too many bone headed plays/passes.
Agreed. Jones needs to handle the ball or else he is questionable as a net positive since you are left with a midget spot up 3pt shooter with a floater and a problem on defense. We were doing much more of Jones as the floor general at the beginning of the season, and it showed good results. Need to get back to that as the next step towards correcting our rotation, after removing Nurkic (also need to start Oso) and playing Beal off the bench.
I don't think Booker can excel with Jimmy he's as the floor general. He doesn't draw or orchestrate an offense like CP3 did so Booker is just relegated to spot up guy with Jones and it's pretty apparent that Booker is far better point Booking the offense in large stretches.
Jimmy?
Tyus lol. I was very stoned. 😂
haha I feel you I love to come here when high. And yes, if the comparison is the Point God (or even Rubae, another master at setting up others), then of course Booker's life is not going to be as easy. At the same time, making Booker the pg is not a solution. His handle is just not tight enough and he does not react fast to traps so that's not where he is at his best either.

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He just seems to play better in general when he handles the ball more and creates his own shot with Tyus spotting up. He doesn't move enough off the ball in this offense.
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Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:42 am
He just seems to play better in general when he handles the ball more and creates his own shot with Tyus spotting up. He doesn't move enough off the ball in this offense.
Booker and this team seemed to peak in the bubble when everyone moved all the time.
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O_Gardino wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:24 pm
TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:42 am
He just seems to play better in general when he handles the ball more and creates his own shot with Tyus spotting up. He doesn't move enough off the ball in this offense.
Booker and this team seemed to peak in the bubble when everyone moved all the time.
That bubble team added Chris Paul who then ran the entire show and then they peaked, so I'm not sure this is correct.
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TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:34 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:24 pm
TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:42 am
He just seems to play better in general when he handles the ball more and creates his own shot with Tyus spotting up. He doesn't move enough off the ball in this offense.
Booker and this team seemed to peak in the bubble when everyone moved all the time.
That bubble team added Chris Paul who then ran the entire show and then they peaked, so I'm not sure this is correct.
I'm mostly just talking shit. Seems like every year we talk about how the offensive system asks too much of Booker, or doesn't give him enough freedom, or something else.
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Split T wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:31 am
ShelC wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:29 am
Turned this one off with about 5 minutes left figuring we'd lose so it was a nice surprise that we won. Caught up on the ending and as much as we hit shots it just felt like the Hornets panicked and gave the game away. It's concerning that we seem to have this much trouble with teams like the Jazz and Hornets.
I think it was we actually played tough defense and the Hornets folded like the bad team they are…wish we would have done that from the start.
Yep, I think it was our best defense of the season. We were really swarming for a change. I hope they can keep it up and don't wait so long to "turn it on".
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Superbone wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:14 pm
Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:49 pm
You don’t get the flu, the flu gets you.
Is this a Yakov Smirnoff bit?
Wow, that's a blast from the past! "What a country!!"

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JJ Slim wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:40 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:14 pm
Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:49 pm
You don’t get the flu, the flu gets you.
Is this a Yakov Smirnoff bit?
Wow, that's a blast from the past! "What a country!!"
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Superbone wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:51 pm
JJ Slim wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:40 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:14 pm
Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:49 pm
You don’t get the flu, the flu gets you.
Is this a Yakov Smirnoff bit?
Wow, that's a blast from the past! "What a country!!"
In America, you break law. In Soviet Russia, law breaks you! In America, you watch Big Brother. In Soviet Russia, Big Brother watch you!

In America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, The Party can always find you!

In America, you assassinate president. In Soviet Russia, president assassinate you!

-Yakov Smirnoff
In America, your basketball team hits shots. In Soviet Russia, shots hit your basketball team!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up center. In (post-)Soviet Russia, center of government lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up power forward. In (post-)Soviet Russia, [word for power] lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Suns are Ished. In Russia, Suns are Ished! Some things are the same all over the world.
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Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:22 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:51 pm
JJ Slim wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:40 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:14 pm
Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:49 pm
You don’t get the flu, the flu gets you.
Is this a Yakov Smirnoff bit?
Wow, that's a blast from the past! "What a country!!"
In America, you break law. In Soviet Russia, law breaks you! In America, you watch Big Brother. In Soviet Russia, Big Brother watch you!

In America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, The Party can always find you!

In America, you assassinate president. In Soviet Russia, president assassinate you!

-Yakov Smirnoff
In America, your basketball team hits shots. In Soviet Russia, shots hit your basketball team!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up center. In (post-)Soviet Russia, center of government lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up power forward. In (post-)Soviet Russia, [word for power] lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Suns are Ished. In Russia, Suns are Ished! Some things are the same all over the world.
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Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:22 pm
In America, Suns are Ished. In Russia, Suns are Ished! Some things are the same all over the world.
This one is obviously based on his Cleveland joke:

"In every country, they make fun of city. In U.S. you make fun of Cleveland. In Russia, we make fun of Cleveland."
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.

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Superbone wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:29 pm
Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:22 pm
In America, Suns are Ished. In Russia, Suns are Ished! Some things are the same all over the world.
This one is obviously based on his Cleveland joke:

"In every country, they make fun of city. In U.S. you make fun of Cleveland. In Russia, we make fun of Cleveland."
Cleveland, Meh. I’ve moved on to New Jersey, then Detroit, and I’m still behind the times.
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Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:22 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:51 pm
JJ Slim wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:40 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:14 pm
Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:49 pm
You don’t get the flu, the flu gets you.
Is this a Yakov Smirnoff bit?
Wow, that's a blast from the past! "What a country!!"
In America, you break law. In Soviet Russia, law breaks you! In America, you watch Big Brother. In Soviet Russia, Big Brother watch you!

In America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, The Party can always find you!

In America, you assassinate president. In Soviet Russia, president assassinate you!

-Yakov Smirnoff
In America, your basketball team hits shots. In Soviet Russia, shots hit your basketball team!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up center. In (post-)Soviet Russia, center of government lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up power forward. In (post-)Soviet Russia, [word for power] lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Suns are Ished. In Russia, Suns are Ished! Some things are the same all over the world.
This is hilarious.

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virtual9mm wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:30 pm
Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:22 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:51 pm
JJ Slim wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:40 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:14 pm


Is this a Yakov Smirnoff bit?
Wow, that's a blast from the past! "What a country!!"
In America, you break law. In Soviet Russia, law breaks you! In America, you watch Big Brother. In Soviet Russia, Big Brother watch you!

In America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, The Party can always find you!

In America, you assassinate president. In Soviet Russia, president assassinate you!

-Yakov Smirnoff
In America, your basketball team hits shots. In Soviet Russia, shots hit your basketball team!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up center. In (post-)Soviet Russia, center of government lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up power forward. In (post-)Soviet Russia, [word for power] lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Suns are Ished. In Russia, Suns are Ished! Some things are the same all over the world.
This is hilarious.
The Ishing is across not only all of space, but all of time. The Doctor just took me to the 23rd Century and the Suns are still Ished. Ish even made us lose the coin flip, ten years before he was born.

/Here comes Saucy to point out this may be a little exaggerated
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Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:30 pm
virtual9mm wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:30 pm
Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:22 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:51 pm
JJ Slim wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:40 pm


Wow, that's a blast from the past! "What a country!!"
In America, you break law. In Soviet Russia, law breaks you! In America, you watch Big Brother. In Soviet Russia, Big Brother watch you!

In America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, The Party can always find you!

In America, you assassinate president. In Soviet Russia, president assassinate you!

-Yakov Smirnoff
In America, your basketball team hits shots. In Soviet Russia, shots hit your basketball team!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up center. In (post-)Soviet Russia, center of government lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up power forward. In (post-)Soviet Russia, [word for power] lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Suns are Ished. In Russia, Suns are Ished! Some things are the same all over the world.
This is hilarious.
The Ishing is across not only all of space, but all of time. The Doctor just took me to the 23rd Century and the Suns are still Ished. Ish even made us lose the coin flip, ten years before he was born.

/Here comes Saucy to point out this may be a little exaggerated
Ish happens.

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Kryptonic wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:06 pm
Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:30 pm
virtual9mm wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:30 pm
Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:22 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:51 pm


In America, you break law. In Soviet Russia, law breaks you! In America, you watch Big Brother. In Soviet Russia, Big Brother watch you!

In America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, The Party can always find you!

In America, you assassinate president. In Soviet Russia, president assassinate you!

-Yakov Smirnoff
In America, your basketball team hits shots. In Soviet Russia, shots hit your basketball team!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up center. In (post-)Soviet Russia, center of government lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Brittney Griner lock up power forward. In (post-)Soviet Russia, [word for power] lock up Brittney Griner!

In America, Suns are Ished. In Russia, Suns are Ished! Some things are the same all over the world.
This is hilarious.
The Ishing is across not only all of space, but all of time. The Doctor just took me to the 23rd Century and the Suns are still Ished. Ish even made us lose the coin flip, ten years before he was born.

/Here comes Saucy to point out this may be a little exaggerated
Ish happens.

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You guys have a career in stand up. Real knee slappers. You can call yourselves Cap and the Dead Horse Beaters

It's understood, you hated the KD trade and you have extrapolated from that single trade that Ishbia will never keep any of our picks, despite just showing you that he did and drafted two stud rookies. And we keep our picks every other year, whether it ends up lottery or late first round we still do get a first. But hey who am I to cap (ehhh , ehh) that drain you're circling

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Cap right now:

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