Suns News: Weeks 12 & 13 (1/6-1/19)

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:09 pm
One could argue that the franchise would be in a better position today if they traded Devin Booker and held on to Deandre Ayton.
Himmy Butler disagrees

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:32 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 pm
TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:53 am
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:46 am
AmareIsGod wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:36 pm


I mean, he's always whining and moping almost every single time you see him on the court. I figured he'd be a Grade A bitch and do something like this.
Blazers fans warned us about his attitude problems, but everyone swore it would be fine and he would always give maximum effort and be fine with his role.
Now do Ayton. I'll wait. Also, let this battle die lol. They can both be ass and Allen is the best of the 3.
You mean the guy who’s shooting 43.7% from the field this season? He’s a dime-a-dozen wing, nothing special.

The point is that Nurkic was supposed to be content with a small role, give maximum effort, with no complaining/moping. That was the whole reason given for trading Ayton.

We were set at center. But we destroyed ourselves, just like every other trade Ishbia has engineered.
Yes, Grazin' Allen is better than Deandre Ayton. And that's ok, there's lots of guys who only 18m per that are better than max guys. It happens.

Nick Richards…might be better than Ayton. At least for the price, it’s no question.

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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SunsRIt wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:17 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 pm
TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:53 am
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:46 am
AmareIsGod wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:36 pm


I mean, he's always whining and moping almost every single time you see him on the court. I figured he'd be a Grade A bitch and do something like this.
Blazers fans warned us about his attitude problems, but everyone swore it would be fine and he would always give maximum effort and be fine with his role.
Now do Ayton. I'll wait. Also, let this battle die lol. They can both be ass and Allen is the best of the 3.
You mean the guy who’s shooting 43.7% from the field this season? He’s a dime-a-dozen wing, nothing special.

The point is that Nurkic was supposed to be content with a small role, give maximum effort, with no complaining/moping. That was the whole reason given for trading Ayton.

We were set at center. But we destroyed ourselves, just like every other trade Ishbia has engineered.
LET. THIS. GO.

The whole reason Ayton was traded is because he sucked and could not be counted on to be worth a damn on any given day. We were not "set" at center. Ayton is a nickel-a-dozen center that isn't even wanted by the team that traded for him. And they suck worse than the Suns. Keep in mind, I was an Ayton apologist until close to the end when I realized he was trash and it wasn't going to change.

This is getting so damn old. Ayton was traded a year and a half ago. We don't want him. Now we don't want Nurk either and all we get from you is Ayton this and Nurk that. They both suck, but Nurk makes $12 million less per year and wasn't our one and only #1 pick. Stop it. You're right Allen wasn't the best part of the trade, but he was a very close second. The best part was getting rid of Ayton.

I guess I need to put you back on ignore.
Hmm…if a difference of opinion aggravates you so much, I guess so.
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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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Wally_West wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:18 pm
TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:32 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 pm
TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:53 am
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:46 am


Blazers fans warned us about his attitude problems, but everyone swore it would be fine and he would always give maximum effort and be fine with his role.
Now do Ayton. I'll wait. Also, let this battle die lol. They can both be ass and Allen is the best of the 3.
You mean the guy who’s shooting 43.7% from the field this season? He’s a dime-a-dozen wing, nothing special.

The point is that Nurkic was supposed to be content with a small role, give maximum effort, with no complaining/moping. That was the whole reason given for trading Ayton.

We were set at center. But we destroyed ourselves, just like every other trade Ishbia has engineered.
Yes, Grazin' Allen is better than Deandre Ayton. And that's ok, there's lots of guys who only 18m per that are better than max guys. It happens.

Nick Richards…might be better than Ayton. At least for the price, it’s no question.
He would be an upgrade from our current center rotation for sure. Hopefully we can get it done.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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SunsRIt wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:21 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:19 pm
Deandre Ayton is the best center in Suns franchise history. Prove me wrong.
Seriously?? You're encouraging this nonsense?
You have to read every saucy post as just that…. Saucy. It all in jest.

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:29 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:17 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 pm
TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:53 am
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:46 am


Blazers fans warned us about his attitude problems, but everyone swore it would be fine and he would always give maximum effort and be fine with his role.
Now do Ayton. I'll wait. Also, let this battle die lol. They can both be ass and Allen is the best of the 3.
You mean the guy who’s shooting 43.7% from the field this season? He’s a dime-a-dozen wing, nothing special.

The point is that Nurkic was supposed to be content with a small role, give maximum effort, with no complaining/moping. That was the whole reason given for trading Ayton.

We were set at center. But we destroyed ourselves, just like every other trade Ishbia has engineered.
LET. THIS. GO.

The whole reason Ayton was traded is because he sucked and could not be counted on to be worth a damn on any given day. We were not "set" at center. Ayton is a nickel-a-dozen center that isn't even wanted by the team that traded for him. And they suck worse than the Suns. Keep in mind, I was an Ayton apologist until close to the end when I realized he was trash and it wasn't going to change.

This is getting so damn old. Ayton was traded a year and a half ago. We don't want him. Now we don't want Nurk either and all we get from you is Ayton this and Nurk that. They both suck, but Nurk makes $12 million less per year and wasn't our one and only #1 pick. Stop it. You're right Allen wasn't the best part of the trade, but he was a very close second. The best part was getting rid of Ayton.

I guess I need to put you back on ignore.
Hmm…if a difference of opinion aggravates you so much, I guess so.
It’s not just about a difference of opinion. You took a position generally considered absurd, there was a time when it was all you ever talked about, and even though it’s not really a problem any more it can still feel like it is because it’s hard to let go of old thoughts.
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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:01 pm
Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:38 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:19 pm
Deandre Ayton is the best center in Suns franchise history. Prove me wrong.
Three words: Joe Barry Carroll.
Oliver Miller.
Jake tsaklidas

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:09 pm
One could argue that the franchise would be in a better position today if they traded Devin Booker and held on to Deandre Ayton.
Hahaha yeah, one could argue.

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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Ring_Wanted wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:38 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:09 pm
One could argue that the franchise would be in a better position today if they traded Devin Booker and held on to Deandre Ayton.
Hahaha yeah, one could argue.
But like why would they, ya know? 😂
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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:07 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:21 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:19 pm
Deandre Ayton is the best center in Suns franchise history. Prove me wrong.
Seriously?? You're encouraging this nonsense?
You know I love chaos, are you surprised?
Same haha

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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Kryptonic wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:36 pm
TOO wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:01 pm
Cap wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:38 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:19 pm
Deandre Ayton is the best center in Suns franchise history. Prove me wrong.
Three words: Joe Barry Carroll.
Oliver Miller.
Jake tsaklidas
Jake Voskuhl.
Love, Hurts.

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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Ring_Wanted wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:38 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:09 pm
One could argue that the franchise would be in a better position today if they traded Devin Booker and held on to Deandre Ayton.
Hahaha yeah, one could argue.
One.

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:19 pm
Deandre Ayton is the best center in Suns franchise history. Prove me wrong.
Amare is the correct answer and it’s not remotely close

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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Split T wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:44 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:19 pm
Deandre Ayton is the best center in Suns franchise history. Prove me wrong.
Amare is the correct answer and it’s not remotely close
100%.

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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One problem with that. He wasn’t a true center. He was a power forward. Thus the reason we traded for Shaq.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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Kryptonic wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:41 pm
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:38 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:09 pm
One could argue that the franchise would be in a better position today if they traded Devin Booker and held on to Deandre Ayton.
Hahaha yeah, one could argue.
One.
Apparently it's two now.
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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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Kryptonic wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:16 pm
Why the Phoenix Suns Should Trade Kevin Durant
https://www.theringer.com/2025/01/13/nb ... ler-rumors
This is a great article. Pretty much 100% spot on about the Suns' problems and the argument FOR trading KD now while we still can.

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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I kinda think you guys are wrong here. Let me give you a perspective you may not have thought about to better appreciate this man.

Deandre Ayton is the best player the Suns have ever drafted #1 overall. You may have a different opinion but you're wrong.

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JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:53 pm
One problem with that. He wasn’t a true center. He was a power forward. Thus the reason we traded for Shaq.
True but he played C

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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)

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Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:17 am
Five games in seven days is kind of nuts. Those are all theoretically winnable games, though, if our team could pull its collective head out of its ass.
UPDATE: We won 4 of the 5.

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