What do you think the suns do next after Beal is bought out?

[specialsauce]

Calling Ishbia cheap is a fucking hilarious take, bravo

[Bucktastic365]

Throwing shit at a wall to see if it will stick, lol

[Wally_West]

PG-Book-Gillespie

SG- Green, Allen, Brea

SF- Brooks- Royce

PF- Dunn, NHD, Fleming

C- Willams, Oso, Richards, Maluach

Hmm. Would still like to trade Royce and Grayson for a big wing.

[Ring_Wanted]

I don’t think they will fill the 15th spot, which keeps them about $30,000 under the tax line

People really wanted to sit on him and be stuck playing half a billion dollars in the tax over the next 2 seasons instead of stretching him and opening up some albeit not perfect flexibility. That's crazy.

I just wish they didn’t play the middle…if the point was to get out of the tax…why are we pretending to want to compete this year? Why didn’t we prioritize youth and picks for KD…why Brooks?

I don’t expect to see us utilize our new found team building avenues…not this year. It’s a 1 year tax reset in a year we don’t own our 1st(or any 1st for that matter). That kinda sucks…and now it will be harder to build a contender around Booker in his prime because we have 23 million in dead cap each year…

There was no good option…but I would’ve preferred a Grayson salary dump or maybe moving off Jalen Green for savings. Or better yet, we should’ve saved money in the KD trade. Get under the apron that way…maybe you can’t get all the way out of the tax, but I don’t care about the tax, that only impacts Ishbia’s wallet. Getting out of the 2nd apron is more crucial and we could’ve done that without a stretch.

I just think this ends in a Booker trade or Booker on a team with a 1st round exit ceiling…we need a miracle at this point.

Agreed. To me the way to go in a KD trade was expiring/unguaranteed crap, youth and picks. Green and Brooks really solve none of the problems this roster has had over the last two seasons, except a little of the missing "toughness" if you want to apply that to Brooks.

Nobody was gonna offer any picks of value for KD, a bad team wasn't going to trade for him. Expirings do what exactly? We'd stink with no draft picks, what's the point. Id rather they at least try to be competitive while we trudge through this no picks.

Mmmh HOU just did trade a pick of value, and I am sure more draft capital could have been extracted if you don't take Brooks, but even if that's not the case, expirings/unguaranteed money (Landale's $8M) instead of Brooks reduce redundancies, allow more room for the youth you have at the wings and give you more flexibility to keep building the roster next season and beyond. And in the context of buying out Beal, aiming for Landale's contract in particular makes it much more doable to just waive him without the need to stretch.

[Split T]

Ya I feel like you could’ve replaced Brooks with Landale and Whitmore and maybe got your 2027 pick back.

[Carno]

I don't think Landale fits, but Whitmore might have been nice. It seems the Suns wanted Brooks. I'm not a fan personally. Even if I ignore his antics, his hero-ball offensive play style can really hurt a team. However, knowing the Suns want to change their culture to be more effort/defense oriented, I can see how they think he can help with that. He's better than the alternative, Pat B. I'll remain cautiously optimistic that maybe he will work out.

[Split T]

Landale would’ve just been a contract, not someone we were acquiring for any basketball…though he would’ve allowed us to move Richards

[Split T]

[carey]

That's just silly. Grayson is a reliable 40% 3-point shooter on a decent contract. $18M is just a bit above the MLE.

[Split T]

But GS is also loaded at small SG(Curry, Podz, Hield)

[SunsShine]

[ShelC]

I don't know what they could possibly see in Kuminga but the fact that they've liked him for a while is scary. He's the kind of bonehead move a bad FO makes.

[Shabazz]

The way this has all played out makes me wonder why this wasn't done on July 1st. Beal could have gotten more money (and given back more) and we would have had the entire offseason to make moves with our newfound flexibility. Not great.

[TOO]

I don't know what they could possibly see in Kuminga but the fact that they've liked him for a while is scary. He's the kind of bonehead move a bad FO makes.

Him and Green would be quite the pair.

[TOO]

The way this has all played out makes me wonder why this wasn't done on July 1st. Beal could have gotten more money (and given back more) and we would have had the entire offseason to make moves with our newfound flexibility. Not great.

Seems like Beal wasn't bothered by how long this took. He's a turd.

[pickle]

I don't think Landale fits, but Whitmore might have been nice. It seems the Suns wanted Brooks. I'm not a fan personally. Even if I ignore his antics, his hero-ball offensive play style can really hurt a team. However, knowing the Suns want to change their culture to be more effort/defense oriented, I can see how they think he can help with that. He's better than the alternative, Pat B. I'll remain cautiously optimistic that maybe he will work out.

I have a few friends who are die hard Houston fans… I think Brooks has toned down his antics a fair bit this past year and no longer shoots everything in front of him. I do think there needs to be a bit of an edge for a player who lags in talent to succeed in the NBA so I’m actually cautiously optimistic about the acquisition. If he doesn’t revert to his Memphis ways I think he might be one of the biggest reasons we succeed this coming year.

I know it’s not prediction time but I’m hoping we at least match last season’s record with half the payroll, and maybe even push 41 wins.

[pickle]

Landale would’ve just been a contract, not someone we were acquiring for any basketball…though he would’ve allowed us to move Richards

If he allowed us to move Richards he would’ve costed more than Richards, right?

[Split T]

I don't know what they could possibly see in Kuminga but the fact that they've liked him for a while is scary. He's the kind of bonehead move a bad FO makes.

I think Kuminga is probably not a championship level guy, but I get taking a chance if the price is right. We are pretty lacking in talent. GS wasn’t ever really bought into Kuminga and didn’t give him much of a chance. We are going to be pretty desperate for offense I think and we can give Kuminga an opportunity he didn’t get in GS. Now he needs to do other stuff that he didn’t do in GS to be a good player, but that’s the risk you’re taking. He wouldn’t be available if he was already doing those things. You’d hope he’d look at someone like Aaron Gordon and realize that’s the path he wants to go, but he might just choose to be thicker Oubre.

[Split T]

Landale would’ve just been a contract, not someone we were acquiring for any basketball…though he would’ve allowed us to move Richards

If he allowed us to move Richards he would’ve costed more than Richards, right?

Yes, but much less than Brooks which is who he’s really replacing in this hypothetical

[pickle]

Landale would’ve just been a contract, not someone we were acquiring for any basketball…though he would’ve allowed us to move Richards

If he allowed us to move Richards he would’ve costed more than Richards, right?

Yes, but much less than Brooks which is who he’s really replacing in this hypothetical

That’s true. I guess I like Brooks more than the average Suns fan so I wasn’t thinking about that.