2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

[TOO]

I'm pretty sure we don't get the heat pick till next year

Riley is no stupid, and Wade is enjoying the mess that is Chicago (NY still the same circus haha).

If you are the Heat, do you try to win with Hassan, Dragic and stuff, or you sell those two and start over? I bet they could get a hefty package for Hassan.

Random thought: if you are Minni, do you accept LaVine (or Wiggins if you may of course) and something for Dragic and Whiteside?

Nope. KAT and Dieng is more than sufficient at 4/5 right now. Dragic doesnt move the needle enough to even consider moving LaVine.

[Ring_Wanted]

I'm pretty sure we don't get the heat pick till next year

Riley is no stupid, and Wade is enjoying the mess that is Chicago (NY still the same circus haha).

If you are the Heat, do you try to win with Hassan, Dragic and stuff, or you sell those two and start over? I bet they could get a hefty package for Hassan.

Random thought: if you are Minni, do you accept LaVine (or Wiggins if you may of course) and something for Dragic and Whiteside?

Nope. KAT and Dieng is more than sufficient at 4/5 right now. Dragic doesnt move the needle enough to even consider moving LaVine.

I don't see KAT+Dieng enough. They need defense in the paint, and Hassan masks a number of flaws from KAT and Wiggins. The price is hefty as LaVine is a tremendous player and monster prospect, but they are also getting Dragic, who gives them a ton of options going forward and can replace some of LaVine's production. Could also have a positive impact on make a Rubio, making him a half-time starter and allowing you more space instantly.

I'd even consider mixing in Winslow and Dunn to alleviate a logjam and adding defense for Thibs. In exchange, Miami gets a prospect with a higher ceiling.

[SDC]

if duke wins the title this season, luke kennard needs to declare early.

[TOO]

I'm pretty sure we don't get the heat pick till next year

Riley is no stupid, and Wade is enjoying the mess that is Chicago (NY still the same circus haha).

If you are the Heat, do you try to win with Hassan, Dragic and stuff, or you sell those two and start over? I bet they could get a hefty package for Hassan.

Random thought: if you are Minni, do you accept LaVine (or Wiggins if you may of course) and something for Dragic and Whiteside?

Nope. KAT and Dieng is more than sufficient at 4/5 right now. Dragic doesnt move the needle enough to even consider moving LaVine.

I don't see KAT+Dieng enough. They need defense in the paint, and Hassan masks a number of flaws from KAT and Wiggins. The price is hefty as LaVine is a tremendous player and monster prospect, but they are also getting Dragic, who gives them a ton of options going forward and can replace some of LaVine's production. Could also have a positive impact on make a Rubio, making him a half-time starter and allowing you more space instantly.

I'd even consider mixing in Winslow and Dunn to alleviate a logjam and adding defense for Thibs. In exchange, Miami gets a prospect with a higher ceiling.

I think they are enough for now, Dragic and Whiteside arent getting them past the Warriors, Spurs, or Rockets at this point. Trading for a redundant postion while already having KAT seems like poor roster managment. Trading a 21 year old SG for a 30 a year old PG while already having a 22 year old PG you can grow with also seems like a bad idea and leaves a hole at SG.

[SDC]

I'm pretty sure we don't get the heat pick till next year

Riley is no stupid, and Wade is enjoying the mess that is Chicago (NY still the same circus haha).

If you are the Heat, do you try to win with Hassan, Dragic and stuff, or you sell those two and start over? I bet they could get a hefty package for Hassan.

Random thought: if you are Minni, do you accept LaVine (or Wiggins if you may of course) and something for Dragic and Whiteside?

Nope. KAT and Dieng is more than sufficient at 4/5 right now. Dragic doesnt move the needle enough to even consider moving LaVine.

I don't see KAT+Dieng enough. They need defense in the paint, and Hassan masks a number of flaws from KAT and Wiggins. The price is hefty as LaVine is a tremendous player and monster prospect, but they are also getting Dragic, who gives them a ton of options going forward and can replace some of LaVine's production. Could also have a positive impact on make a Rubio, making him a half-time starter and allowing you more space instantly.

I'd even consider mixing in Winslow and Dunn to alleviate a logjam and adding defense for Thibs. In exchange, Miami gets a prospect with a higher ceiling.

I think they are enough for now, Dragic and Whiteside arent getting them past the Warriors, Spurs, or Rockets at this point. Trading for a redundant postion while already having KAT seems like poor roster managment. Trading a 21 year old SG for a 30 a year old PG while already having a 22 year old PG you can grow with also seems like a bad idea and leaves a hole at SG.

this works, if you add a protected 2017 1st round pick
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6758063

[SDC]

one and dones

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla ... rder_by=ws

[Shabazz]

Fultz today:

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[Shabazz]

Lonzo Ball today:

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[TOO]

Ball is a Vulcan... who knew?

[carey]

Lonzo Ball today:

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His shot goes in but it sure is funky looking. He brings it from down low and shoots it from almost below eye-level. He will be the next Kevin Martin if he can shoot it well in the NBA. 53/43 splits ain't bad at all, and it's not like he is taking college 3's. He shoots it from Curry range all the time.

Btw, he played 40 minutes. Does he play the entire game often?

They play Arizona next Saturday on CBS. That's going to be a good one. I really wish the NCAA would either clear Trier or tell him it isn't going to happen already. They are so ridiculous sometimes.

[In2ition]

Lonzo Ball today:

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His shot goes in but it sure is funky looking. He brings it from down low and shoots it from almost below eye-level. He will be the next Kevin Martin if he can shoot it well in the NBA. 53/43 splits ain't bad at all, and it's not like he is taking college 3's. He shoots it from Curry range all the time.

Btw, he played 40 minutes. Does he play the entire game often?

They play Arizona next Saturday on CBS. That's going to be a good one. I really wish the NCAA would either clear Trier or tell him it isn't going to happen already. They are so ridiculous sometimes.

Can't say he's going to be the next Kevin Martin. Yes, he has a very similar looking shooting form, but their games are very different and Lonzo offers much much more.

[carey]

Can't say he's going to be the next Kevin Martin. Yes, he has a very similar looking shooting form, but their games are very different and Lonzo offers much much more.

Lol. Clearly. I just meant the guy in the league that has a funky motion but can still put it in the hoop.

[In2ition]

Can't say he's going to be the next Kevin Martin. Yes, he has a very similar looking shooting form, but their games are very different and Lonzo offers much much more.

Lol. Clearly. I just meant the guy in the league that has a funky motion but can still put it in the hoop.

Haha, sorry.

[OE32]

What concerns me most about Ball his reportedly bad defense. I don't watch enough college ball to know. So I have a frame of reference - who's the better defender between Monk and Ball?

[Split T]

What concerns me most about Ball his reportedly bad defense. I don't watch enough college ball to know. So I have a frame of reference - who's the better defender between Monk and Ball?

I've only watched a couple of their games. I think both actually project as at least decent defenders. But I am not certain.

[Shabazz]

Fultz tonight: 38 points, 8 assists, 5 rebounds, 3 blocks, 3 steals. 13-24 from the field.

Only 11-15 at the line though, so he's on my "do not draft" list.

[pickle]

Definitely. Clearly he cannot shoot.

[TOO]

You guys are the best.

[Mori Chu]

I like how we have moved from drafting every Kentucky prospect to drafting every Washington prospect. #progress

[In2ition]

I like how we have moved from drafting every Kentucky prospect to drafting every Washington prospect. #progress

It's a red state, blue state thing... or is it a cat or dog thing? I can never get it right.