If you just watched the 2nd half like I did, Ayton was ok tonight
I watched the entire game, buddy. I guess if you don't care about the Raptors getting a ton of easy baskets on put backs because DA doesn't block out his man, and only watch every thing else, he would look pretty good.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:51 pm
by Superbone
If you only look at DA's stats, he had a GREAT game.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
If you just watched the 2nd half like I did, Ayton was ok tonight
I watched the entire game, buddy. I guess if you don't care about the Raptors getting a ton of easy baskets on put backs because DA doesn't block out his man, and only watch every thing else, he would look pretty good.
Most of that must have been in the 1st half. I didn’t notice a ton of that
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:04 pm
by Superbone
I seem to be in the minority tonight. I'm going to quit watching him so closely. I just get really frustrated when a team gets so many put backs on offensive rebounds.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
I seem to be in the minority tonight. I'm going to quit watching him so closely. I just get really frustrated when a team gets so many put backs on offensive rebounds.
He was barely a +1 tonight very late in the game. Kept doing jack shit on defense.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
I seem to be in the minority tonight. I'm going to quit watching him so closely. I just get really frustrated when a team gets so many put backs on offensive rebounds.
I've found myself guilty of this in the past year or so. It's a lot easier to nitpick when you're focused on every step he makes, so I try to not do it now.
Regarding tonight, I think he a had a good game by his standard. He's in a mini shooting slump that hurt his scoring numbers, but this is the third game in a row that he hasn't really loafed around for stretches. Still the same issues with mental lapses, but like I said, good game by his standard.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
These Raptors seem like a bad team, like a whole that is less than the sun of the parts. They seem all out of sorts. They can't stop Bridges or Ayton.
This is a big reason why I have a short fuse for the extreme Monty criticism...
Look at the Raptors. They have an all-NBA player, an all-star PG (1x), the reigning ROY, and a guy who's supposedly worth 2-3 first round picks. The Suns are better on paper, but it's not by much. Yet we never hear criticism for Nick Nurse. He's unquestionably one of the best coaches in the league and his team runs the clogged toilet offense. It's one or maybe two screens to try for a mismatch and then drive and kick every single possession. I'd lose my mind watching that crap for a whole season.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
I seem to be in the minority tonight. I'm going to quit watching him so closely. I just get really frustrated when a team gets so many put backs on offensive rebounds.
Some of that was on Ayton. Raptors have a number of 6-8.6-9 guys who hit the boards and have significant wingspan.
Craig was somewhat inactive until later in the second half. And he looks a bit worn the past several games.
Wainright is only 6-5. Saric is not particularly athletic. Cam Johnson has length, but hangs out more on the outside.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
If you only look at DA's stats, he had a GREAT game.
This is the JeremyG method.
Guys, let's go easy on JeremyG. If you want to criticize Ayton's play, please go ahead, but JeremyG literally quit posting here because of all the folks bashing him. I realize that his persistent defenses of Ayton rubbed some of you wrong, but he isn't even here and some of you keep piling on him. I'm not trying to be oversensitive or censorious but I also want this site to be a place where we can talk to each other with respect even if we disagree.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:45 am
by Mori Chu
From reddit. Interesting.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:58 am
by Flagrant Fowl
I really like OG Anunoby. I think he's first team all-defense with all-NBA upside, but there's some paralysis by analysis going on with him right now mostly due to the Toronto's reported asking price. I'll wait until the dust settles to decide if he's at all relevant to the Suns.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:39 am
by Split T
OG isn’t a guy you want running offense…he’s basically a bigger mikal(before this leap he’s taken recently). Elite defense, can make open 3s, can attack closeouts
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
If you only look at DA's stats, he had a GREAT game.
This is the JeremyG method.
Guys, let's go easy on JeremyG. If you want to criticize Ayton's play, please go ahead, but JeremyG literally quit posting here because of all the folks bashing him. I realize that his persistent defenses of Ayton rubbed some of you wrong, but he isn't even here and some of you keep piling on him. I'm not trying to be oversensitive or censorious but I also want this site to be a place where we can talk to each other with respect even if we disagree.
The JeremyG needling that's done here is juvenile at best, and downright disgusting at worst, but I'm not going to figure out each person's motives. Seems like too much time is spent with bully tactics, imo.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:49 am
by bajanguy008
Well just got finished
I said that I couldn't care less that Spurs game went OT because of getting to see that Mikal takeover
Well he definitely one-up that game
Top stuff from the dude, it's times like this where I wish I could do my own little video analysis to share on here
*Edit* - searched on Twitter
If Mikal had only scored 15pts I would have still been excited just from this play alone. We all know his struggles with full court pressure and also ball handling in traffic. FVV can pick pocket or strip with the best of them so
Then Barnes now on the full court pressure and this dime off the high pick n' roll. Again, I'm just giggling like a proud dad at this point lol
Can't find the final play, but it was smart D as they stopped him from taking the dribble hand off going left for his fav pull up. He calmly went back right and still hit the jumper
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
These Raptors seem like a bad team, like a whole that is less than the sun of the parts. They seem all out of sorts. They can't stop Bridges or Ayton.
This is a big reason why I have a short fuse for the extreme Monty criticism...
Look at the Raptors. They have an all-NBA player, an all-star PG (1x), the reigning ROY, and a guy who's supposedly worth 2-3 first round picks. The Suns are better on paper, but it's not by much. Yet we never hear criticism for Nick Nurse. He's unquestionably one of the best coaches in the league and his team runs the clogged toilet offense. It's one or maybe two screens to try for a mismatch and then drive and kick every single possession. I'd lose my mind watching that crap for a whole season.
Thats what winning a title does for you.
Re: Game Day: Raptors (23-28) @ Suns (26-25), Mon 1/30/23
If you only look at DA's stats, he had a GREAT game.
This is the JeremyG method.
Guys, let's go easy on JeremyG. If you want to criticize Ayton's play, please go ahead, but JeremyG literally quit posting here because of all the folks bashing him. I realize that his persistent defenses of Ayton rubbed some of you wrong, but he isn't even here and some of you keep piling on him. I'm not trying to be oversensitive or censorious but I also want this site to be a place where we can talk to each other with respect even if we disagree.
The JeremyG needling that's done here is juvenile at best, and downright disgusting at worst, but I'm not going to figure out each person's motives. Seems like too much time is spent with bully tactics, imo.
It's no different than when everyone would harp on INFORMER because of draft picks and euros. None of it is malicious.
