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Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:50 pm

Yeah, that and hair envy.

That and the fact that Saucy's chi isn't balanced.

Pyramid papi is Abdul Nader, not Kelly Oubre. I think I’d prefer Shamet to Nader…but Nader had his moments.

I'd only heard Dooley for Nader, and there's not a chance in hell I'm taking him over Shamet.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:24 pm

I'd only heard Dooley for Nader, and there's not a chance in hell I'm taking him over Shamet.

What about at their respective salaries?

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:46 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:24 pm

I'd only heard Dooley for Nader, and there's not a chance in hell I'm taking him over Shamet.

What about at their respective salaries?

Is there a third option?

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:46 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:18 pm

I think there's probably only one Suns fan who'd disagree, 'bazz.

True. Saucy's #1 pet peeve with players is when they think they're better than they are. He'd rather have a 3 that knows he's a 3, than a 7 who thinks he's a 10.

You understand me! ‘Bazz gets it! That’s exactly it!

The most dangerous people in this world are the ones who don’t know what they don’t know, and people like PJ Tucker, Mike James, ABDEl Nader are that

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:04 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:46 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:18 pm

I think there's probably only one Suns fan who'd disagree, 'bazz.

True. Saucy's #1 pet peeve with players is when they think they're better than they are. He'd rather have a 3 that knows he's a 3, than a 7 who thinks he's a 10.

You understand me! ‘Bazz gets it! That’s exactly it!

The most dangerous people in this world are the ones who don’t know what they don’t know, and people like PJ Tucker, Mike James, ABDEl Nader are that

I agree except I think coaches who try to make these players fill roles that they aren't fit for are even more of a problem. The great coaches don't go around trying to fit square pegs into round holes.

Oubre averages 20.3 ppg (on a bad team) on 43/32/76 splits in 32 mpg.
Shamet averages 8.7 ppg on 38/37/88 splits in 20 mpg.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... eke01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... ela01.html

Oubre is definitely better, there’s no debate there(except maybe with saucy but he doesn’t like Shamet either).

Problem with Oubre though is I’m not sure he’d play his role. I’d just want him to be a bench scorer and play solid D. Basically the designer version of TJ and Ross.

Do defense now.

Shamet is a better defender than oubre because he stays in his lane, but the athleticism and shot making from Oubre would be a nice bonus off the bench. Oubre is definitely a better defender than Ross

Oubre was fun, but he made everything about him. He didn't really pass the ball and I think he rubbed some of the guys the wrong way.

He definitely burned some bridges on his way out. He and Ayton were buddies, but I don’t think he and Book were that close. He was great for where we were as a team, but doesn’t make as much sense anymore. He really could’ve made himself a lot of money if he focused on different things. He wanted to be Paul George, but he should’ve been Shawn Marion.