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Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:16 pm
by MightyMoog
LazarusLong wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:49 pm
Good trade for Bucks.
Decent trade for Portland.
Questionable trade for Suns ... Nurkic is the type of center popular in the 80s and 90s NBA--aircraft carrier era.
Catastrophic trade for the Heat.
It’s all about perspective
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:16 pm
by Mori Chu
Fwiw, Suns Reddit is mostly not thrilled with this trade.
https://reddit.com/r/suns/s/vt4FlUvV74
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:17 pm
by Superbone
Wolf had a good point. This trade doesn't go down if Book doesn't sign off on it.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:18 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Suns Reddit is populated by a lot of people who don’t understand basketball. Most of them loved Kelly Oubre, for example.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:19 pm
by Kryptonic
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:18 pm
Suns Reddit is populated by a lot of people who don’t understand basketball. Most of them loved Kelly Oubre, for example.
Hey... Leave Tsunami Papi out of this!
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:20 pm
by Superbone
We did get deeper and tougher.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:20 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:17 pm
Wolf had a good point. This trade doesn't go down if Book doesn't sign off on it.
Ayton sold them out two years in a row in the playoffs.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:22 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
An underrated part of this deal is now the Suns don’t have to worry about getting a jump shooting 7-footer chances to score just to keep him playing hard.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:22 pm
by Shabazz
Ayton sitting in game 6 was the equivalent of Kelly sitting out the bubble.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:23 pm
by Wally_West
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:18 pm
Suns Reddit is populated by a lot of people who don’t understand basketball. Most of them loved Kelly Oubre, for example.
random shot at Oubre made me think this was Saucey for a sec
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:26 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Wally_West wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:23 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:18 pm
Suns Reddit is populated by a lot of people who don’t understand basketball. Most of them loved Kelly Oubre, for example.
random shot at Oubre made me think this was Saucey for a sec
NGL Kelly Oubre is a pretty good litmus test for telling if someone has a clue about winning NBA basketball.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:27 pm
by Kryptonic
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:00 pm
Camara? Was that necessary? Ooph.
Can't
picture it.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:28 pm
by TOO
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:22 pm
An underrated part of this deal is now the Suns don’t have to worry about getting a jump shooting 7-footer chances to score just to keep him playing hard.
So fucking is underrated. Nurk or Eubanks depending on Nurks health will always play hard and do the big man work Ayton didn't wanna do when he wasn't getting his touches.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:29 pm
by JeremyG
Shabazz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:22 pm
Ayton sitting in game 6 was the equivalent of Kelly sitting out the bubble.
This is insane. Kelly was medically cleared to play. Ayton had trouble breathing from bruised ribs, which are no joke.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:32 pm
by Superbone
ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:14 pm
Thing is, we know Little can play. Camara is still a question mark at this level, tho I was cautiously optimistic about him. He and Little would've been redundant.
For the Bucks, they take a step back defensively as Jrue was a big time perimeter defender. Dame is lightyears ahead in terms of offense, so it'll be interesting to see that trade-off. If we see them in the Finals, it won't be Jrue hounding Book which is a plus IMO.
For the people complaining about seeing the Bucks in the Finals, I'd love to see them in the Finals again. I'd love to see ANYBODY in the Finals.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:32 pm
by Kryptonic
JeremyG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:29 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:22 pm
Ayton sitting in game 6 was the equivalent of Kelly sitting out the bubble.
This is insane. Kelly was medically cleared to play. Ayton had trouble breathing from bruised ribs, which are no joke.
Football players play with bruised ribs all the time and that's a lot more contact the basketball... It's a joke when you're a pivotal part of a team and can't push yourself for your teammates. I wouldn't be surprised when it comes out some day from KD or Book that this was the moment they were DONE with his pussy ass. He couldn't even suit up to go 10-12 minutes to show he cared. Stop defending this bullshit.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:33 pm
by Wally_West
This deal isn’t league official official, right? Cuz my gut is telling me we are gonna reroute Allen somewhere. Allen and a 2nd for TJ McConnell works.
Any other interesting players in Allen’s price range?
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:34 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:06 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:02 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:49 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:26 pm
Ayton was never our championship or bust piece though. It’s not up to him. It’ll be up to Book/KD/Beal
That’s not what y’all were saying two months ago.
I think you misinterpret a lot of what I say. Maybe I say it poorly. Certainly Ayton had the power to thwart our championship, but he was never gonna win us one.
Thwart us by playing poorly…like at the level of a Jusuf Nurkic?
Thwart us by quitting on the team again…I’m done discussing Ayton though. He’s gone and I think it’s for the best.
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:41 pm
by Superbone
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:27 pm
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:00 pm
Camara? Was that necessary? Ooph.
Can't
picture it.
Snap!
Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:45 pm
by djy2j
Ok guys...after months and months of meditation and contemplation, I'm FINALLY ready to accept the Myles Turner and Buddy Hield for Ayton offer! Push the button. Pull the trigger. Call it in. Do whatever you have to do but let's go!!!!
