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Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:16 am
by ShelC
I think if you replace the PGs with a PnR guy like Schroder, with Booker, Leuer/Tele, and Chandler and Goodwin, TJ, Len off the bench...you'd have a good start for MikeD. But everything is predicated on that PG. I also question the spacing at the SF spot. But MikeD had success in NY with Lin running point, Billy Walkers at the 2, Fields at the 3 and then Novak/Jared Jeffries and Chandler at the 5.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:18 am
by Dan H
If Mike could commit to playing young guys I'd be interested to see what happened.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:22 am
by Cap
Putting the younglings out on the court is one thing. But we need a coach who will do everything possible to help them become the best players they can be. Mike D doesn't have a history of doing that.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:24 am
by Mori Chu
SwingMan wrote:Try being less of a smartass. I never asserted that I was some omnipotent know-it-all - I just said that Stein was talking out of his ass here. But, IMO, it was only a matter of time - if he didn't do it, someone else would've.

And carey, you've no leg to stand on when talking about being butthurt about someone calling you out, so cork it - you're not helping anyone or anything.

Now - where's some confirmation of Stein's assertion?
Swing, please let this go. Not saying it is all your fault, but please just drop this argument.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:25 am
by Indy
Dan H wrote:If Mike could commit to playing young guys I'd be interested to see what happened.
Well, we don't have very many guys that aren't young. And I would think the oldest guys (Tyson & PJ) will likely be gone by next year. Other than that, Weems and Tele are the only guys born before 89.

All that said, I am not a fan of bringing him back.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:05 pm
by EDC
I'm not a fan of bringing D'antoni back either. He would love Booker and TJ but they would become one dimensional players just like Amare.

Mike D could probably leads us back to the playoffs pretty quickly with his offensive system but it wouldn't even come close to the old days.

That isn't even mentioning how he quit on this team and city in the middle of a winnable playoff series vs the Spurs. He checked out mid series and then so did the players. It is unforgivable.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:11 pm
by ShelC
We should keep Markieff, trade to get Marcus back and hire Robert Horry to coach that team.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:32 pm
by SwingMan
Indy wrote:Ah, got it. Throw out criticism, and when asked for the basis of it, redirect by saying that the original post didn't have a basis.


Whatever - I'm not the one trying to instigate shit and I'm not into carrying it on.....

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:34 pm
by SwingMan
ShelC wrote:I don't think we'll get more confirmation. Stein's got legit connections and has proven to be in tune with the organization so that's probably as solid info as you'll get. But that's what it always is from these guys, hearsay and speculation. I don't think he, nor most in his position, would just make stuff up without some sort of legitimacy.
Like I said, it was only a matter of time - if it wasn't Stein, it'd be someone else.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:35 pm
by SwingMan
Mori Chu wrote:
SwingMan wrote:Try being less of a smartass. I never asserted that I was some omnipotent know-it-all - I just said that Stein was talking out of his ass here. But, IMO, it was only a matter of time - if he didn't do it, someone else would've.

And carey, you've no leg to stand on when talking about being butthurt about someone calling you out, so cork it - you're not helping anyone or anything.

Now - where's some confirmation of Stein's assertion?
Swing, please let this go. Not saying it is all your fault, but please just drop this argument.
Already done. ;)

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:37 pm
by SwingMan
Cap wrote:Putting the younglings out on the court is one thing. But we need a coach who will do everything possible to help them become the best players they can be. Mike D doesn't have a history of doing that.
And therein lies exactly why I don't want to see D'Antoni anywhere near this team. That and the fact that neither Bledsoe or Knight can run P&R worth a tinker's damn.....

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:39 pm
by iLLmatic
Dan H wrote:If Mike could commit to playing young guys I'd be interested to see what happened.
Mike played the young guys in the 2003-2004 campaign after we shipped off Marbury. I'll be honest and say I'd be intrigued to see how the players would respond.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:26 pm
by Superbone
Dan H wrote:If Mike could commit to playing young guys I'd be interested to see what happened.
+1

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:28 pm
by Superbone
EDC wrote:That isn't even mentioning how he quit on this team and city in the middle of a winnable playoff series vs the Spurs. He checked out mid series and then so did the players. It is unforgivable.
You just sent out the JustWinBaby bat signal!

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:31 pm
by ShelC
I'll take $1mil to stand on the sidelines, clap my hands and tell the guys that we gotta play faster and run harder.

Remember when that was the strategy in timeouts against the Spurs in the 4th qtr? I'll take an Xs and Os guy who can adjust and make adjustments to the opposing team's adjustments.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:31 pm
by iLLmatic
Superbone wrote:
EDC wrote:That isn't even mentioning how he quit on this team and city in the middle of a winnable playoff series vs the Spurs. He checked out mid series and then so did the players. It is unforgivable.
You just sent out the JustWinBaby bat signal!
He's at ASFN, why doesn't he post here? Isn't Wormwood on RealGM too?

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:33 pm
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:I'll take $1mil to stand on the sidelines, clap my hands and tell the guys that we gotta play faster and run harder.

Remember when that was the strategy in timeouts against the Spurs in the 4th qtr? I'll take an Xs and Os guy who can adjust and make adjustments to the opposing team's adjustments.
Don't forget that the ball finds the energy. Or something like that.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:34 pm
by Superbone
iLLmatic wrote:
Superbone wrote:
EDC wrote:That isn't even mentioning how he quit on this team and city in the middle of a winnable playoff series vs the Spurs. He checked out mid series and then so did the players. It is unforgivable.
You just sent out the JustWinBaby bat signal!
He's at ASFN, why doesn't he post here? Isn't Wormwood on RealGM too?
JWB was here under a different name for a while. It was obvious it was him.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:54 pm
by Indy
I miss wormy's takes.

Re: Suns News: Week 10 12/28-1/3

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:58 pm
by Charlie Smithy!
ShelC wrote:I'll take $1mil to stand on the sidelines, clap my hands and tell the guys that we gotta play faster and run harder.

Remember when that was the strategy in timeouts against the Spurs in the 4th qtr? I'll take an Xs and Os guy who can adjust and make adjustments to the opposing team's adjustments.
That and something along the lines of "No worries, they're gonna cool off, etc etc."

The Mikey D era was very bittersweet for me.

This current era (Monster Malaise?), however...