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Really? It sounds like he does 2 or 3 voice impersonations for fun. I do that at work and with friends. It's all in fun. I don't have MPD. People are really trying to reach. "We want a singular robotic player solely focused on his own personality and voice and not having fun with his teammates!"UglyTruth wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:55 pmHe seems to suffer from MPD. Should be a “red flag”.jonh wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:44 pmAyton does seem to be a unique guy:
https://deadspin.com/my-weird-son-deand ... 1826953847
My excitement about him as a pick seems to drop as time goes on. Ill be excited either way, but this is starting to feel like a missed opportunity.
I think ugly truth was being sarcastic.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:07 pmReally? It sounds like he does 2 or 3 voice impersonations for fun. I do that at work and with friends. It's all in fun. I don't have MPD. People are really trying to reach. "We want a singular robotic player solely focused on his own personality and voice and not having fun with his teammates!"UglyTruth wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:55 pmHe seems to suffer from MPD. Should be a “red flag”.jonh wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:44 pmAyton does seem to be a unique guy:
https://deadspin.com/my-weird-son-deand ... 1826953847
My excitement about him as a pick seems to drop as time goes on. Ill be excited either way, but this is starting to feel like a missed opportunity.
I was being sarcastic.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:07 pmReally? It sounds like he does 2 or 3 voice impersonations for fun. I do that at work and with friends. It's all in fun. I don't have MPD. People are really trying to reach. "We want a singular robotic player solely focused on his own personality and voice and not having fun with his teammates!"UglyTruth wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:55 pmHe seems to suffer from MPD. Should be a “red flag”.jonh wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:44 pmAyton does seem to be a unique guy:
https://deadspin.com/my-weird-son-deand ... 1826953847
My excitement about him as a pick seems to drop as time goes on. Ill be excited either way, but this is starting to feel like a missed opportunity.
Am I crazy that I'd consider a Saric/Fultz/#10 for #1?
Haha, I thought it was a little crazy myself...it's really risky. Fultz has to pan out and you have to be able to move back up...if Fultz never finds his jumpshot and you end up drafting Robert Williams and Mikal Bridges at 10/16 then it's a terrible move.specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:31 pmYes, you are crazy. Sorry Split, don’t shoot the messenger!
Sure, Fultz could potentially still turn things around and become a star in this league. Given how his first season went down I would however estimate our chances of that actually happening to hover around 40-60% or so. That makes a trade like the one mentioned a pretty huge (and unnecessary) gamble, if you ask me. But I like Bamba and Carter a lot so I get your train of thought and the idea of filling more wholes in our roster with one or two moves appeals to me. I would still pass on Fultz right now.specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:31 pmYes, you are crazy. Sorry Split, don’t shoot the messenger!
He also said something about how he hates America and how basketball felt like a job for him later on.ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:49 pmI want a guy focused on basketball, not his brand. Ayton seems to want to be a personality and called himself an "entertainer" during the Puma signing. I don't want Amar'e or DHow looking to be a fashion star or movie producer. I want a guy with a singular focus on basketball and winning. I remember Harrison Barnes talking about his "brand" during his freshman year at UNC...that's an American/AAU thing. And I know Ayton is from the Bahamas and wants to follow a guy like Bolt. But Bolt wasn't Bolt until he was the best in the world. Embiid is funny and has a personality but backs it up. The more I see quotes from Ayton, the less I like him. I'm pretty sure we'll take him and will hope he's the gamechanger we need. Just don't like the chatter right now.
It’s possible for me think someone doesn’t have MPD while still questioning if someone’s personality is suited well for basketball.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:13 pmSo it was sarcasm about multiple personality disorder earlier UglyTruth, followed by reading way too much into someone's personality afterwards and raising a plethora of red flags. What is it? Either sarcasm or really just sarcasm masking thin veiled stabs at his quotes and feelings indicating an immature 19 year old that isn't focused on basketball. You can't have a personality and play basketball, God forbid. If you don't like Ayton, you and others around here, you'll find any and every opportunity to discredit and discount him before he steps foot on an NBA court.
Meanwhile, the entire lot of you will sing his praises if he becomes the next big thing.
Terrible shot! He missed the rim entirely.
I am afraid I have to agree with that. It really makes me wonder why character evaluation is not super important to GMs. Not only in terms of fit but also player development in general. I would think that it can make a huge difference if a player is a humble leader with a fantastic work ethic or not. As I see it that could be the key differentiator between a talent with potential and a superstar.ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:49 pmI want a guy focused on basketball, not his brand. Ayton seems to want to be a personality and called himself an "entertainer" during the Puma signing. I don't want Amar'e or DHow looking to be a fashion star or movie producer. I want a guy with a singular focus on basketball and winning. I remember Harrison Barnes talking about his "brand" during his freshman year at UNC...that's an American/AAU thing. And I know Ayton is from the Bahamas and wants to follow a guy like Bolt. But Bolt wasn't Bolt until he was the best in the world. Embiid is funny and has a personality but backs it up. The more I see quotes from Ayton, the less I like him. I'm pretty sure we'll take him and will hope he's the gamechanger we need. Just don't like the chatter right now.
I'm 100% with you on this, but it'll be OK if he can play. Shaq is another guy with a brand, but he made it happen on the court.ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:49 pmI want a guy focused on basketball, not his brand. Ayton seems to want to be a personality and called himself an "entertainer" during the Puma signing. I don't want Amar'e or DHow looking to be a fashion star or movie producer. I want a guy with a singular focus on basketball and winning. I remember Harrison Barnes talking about his "brand" during his freshman year at UNC...that's an American/AAU thing. And I know Ayton is from the Bahamas and wants to follow a guy like Bolt. But Bolt wasn't Bolt until he was the best in the world. Embiid is funny and has a personality but backs it up. The more I see quotes from Ayton, the less I like him. I'm pretty sure we'll take him and will hope he's the gamechanger we need. Just don't like the chatter right now.