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If I were Orlando I'd be after Monk.

The more I see Isaac the more I like (I see some KG in him). Minni would kill it with this pick.

carey wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:A cross-racial comparison! And it's probably the most accurate one I've heard for Jackson. We'll done, TOO.

I thought Bender was supposed to be our AK47! We can't have 2 Russian machine guns on the roster!

Jackson moves very fast but I don't think he's Russian. (Nor dragging for that matter.)

I found this interesting in the DX comparison article:

Jackson may not be as safe as guys like Tatum or Isaac, but if he can be a passable shooter, and continue to channel his emotion in a positive way, he could be one of the best prospects to come out of this draft. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/com ... saac-6062/ ©DraftExpress

From everything I've read, I thought Jackson was the safer pick between him and Isaac?

Here's where I think I'm at now with guys that will be available (at least 2 of the 3 will be available):
1. Tatum
2. Jackson
3. Isaac

Superbone wrote: Jackson moves very fast but I don't think he's Russian. (Nor dragging for that matter.)

8/10!

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Split T wrote:The Jackson-kawhi comparisons were never fair, neither were the isaac-durant or isaac-antetekounmpo comparisons.

More realistic ceilings are Butler/Iggy for Jackson and I'm not really sure for Isaac. He's a little more unique, maybe something like Ibaka/Odom

AK47?

A cross-racial comparison! And it's probably the most accurate one I've heard for Jackson. We'll done, TOO.

Is it for Jackson or Isaac? I guess both can make some sense, moreso for Isaac though, similar size and ability to defend. I don't think Jackson will be able to defend bigs like ak-47 and Isaac did and will do.

Listening to Bill Simmons and Kevin O'Connor podcast today, they talk about Isaac as a superstar role player. Probably not ever going to be your best or second best player, but still very valuable. Marion/AK-47 type impact.

Ring_Wanted wrote:Random:

If I were Orlando I'd be after Monk.

The more I see Isaac the more I like (I see some KG in him). Minni would kill it with this pick.

I think Minny should take Monk as well if he's there.

Split T wrote:
Listening to Bill Simmons and Kevin O'Connor podcast today, they talk about Isaac as a superstar role player. Probably not ever going to be your best or second best player, but still very valuable. Marion/AK-47 type impact.

Doesn't that sound like Bender to you? Can a team succeed with 2 of them?

Superbone wrote:I found this interesting in the DX comparison article:

Jackson may not be as safe as guys like Tatum or Isaac, but if he can be a passable shooter, and continue to channel his emotion in a positive way, he could be one of the best prospects to come out of this draft. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/com ... saac-6062/ ©DraftExpress

From everything I've read, I thought Jackson was the safer pick between him and Isaac?

Here's where I think I'm at now with guys that will be available (at least 2 of the 3 will be available):
1. Tatum
2. Jackson
3. Isaac

Everyone is just worried about his shot. If it's not any good, he's Corey Brewer/MKG with some handles.

Isaac is thought of to be risky because he didn't handle the ball much and create much offense, so if you're projecting him as a ball handler/creator, that's a little risky. He should pretty safely be a good rebounder/defender who stretches the floor though.

I'm happy with either Jackson or Isaac, but Isaac intrigues me just a little more. I like the fit of Jackson better alongside Booker, I think Isaac kinda buries Bender on the bench, but if Isaac has more projectability in his ball handling/shot creation, he could be special.

https://twitter.com/ValleyoftheSuns/status/877662294653759488 Uh..., yeah. Talk about a no brainer.

carey wrote:

Split T wrote:
Listening to Bill Simmons and Kevin O'Connor podcast today, they talk about Isaac as a superstar role player. Probably not ever going to be your best or second best player, but still very valuable. Marion/AK-47 type impact.

Doesn't that sound like Bender to you? Can a team succeed with 2 of them?

Ya, definitely some overlap there. I think Bender has more offensive IQ, but I like Isaac better defensively. And I believe in Isaac's shot more than Bender. If they both reach their potential, I think there is room. The problem would be Bender getting buried on the depth chart.

If we draft Isaac, Bender might need to bulk up and try to be a Jokic like player at the 5. Or hope Isaac can play the 3 full time.

Superbone wrote:https://twitter.com/ValleyoftheSuns/status/877662294653759488 Uh..., yeah. Talk about a no brainer.

I think that's where the negotiation has to start, but there would still be some deal breakers for me. Things like taking on Noah's contract and giving up several young assets and/or picks. The price can still be too high even without including Booker.

i don't know if I'm in the minority here but I really hope Bender doesn't get buried again. I was really bummed he got injured and missed out on the youngsters playing time post all star break because his playing time and dnp streaks early in the season was not cool. I just think it's more a comfort n confidence thing than not having the tools

Split T wrote:

carey wrote:

Split T wrote:
Listening to Bill Simmons and Kevin O'Connor podcast today, they talk about Isaac as a superstar role player. Probably not ever going to be your best or second best player, but still very valuable. Marion/AK-47 type impact.

Doesn't that sound like Bender to you? Can a team succeed with 2 of them?

Ya, definitely some overlap there. I think Bender has more offensive IQ, but I like Isaac better defensively. And I believe in Isaac's shot more than Bender. If they both reach their potential, I think there is room. The problem would be Bender getting buried on the depth chart.

If we draft Isaac, Bender might need to bulk up and try to be a Jokic like player at the 5. Or hope Isaac can play the 3 full time.

Bender's shot is really pretty. It's also a quick trigger. It's going to start going in.

Superbone wrote:Here's where I think I'm at now with guys that will be available (at least 2 of the 3 will be available):
1. Tatum
2. Jackson
3. Isaac

Hold on a second. I'm not ruling out Fox either if we're willing to move Bledsoe. In fact, the more I read about Fox, the more I like him. Some are saying he has a chance to be special. How funny would it be if we took yet another Kentucky guard?

Less than 24 hours until draft. I don't know if I'll be able to work tomorrow. I might have to take off early.

bajanguy008 wrote:i don't know if I'm in the minority here but I really hope Bender doesn't get buried again. I was really bummed he got injured and missed out on the youngsters playing time post all star break because his playing time and dnp streaks early in the season was not cool. I just think it's more a comfort n confidence thing than not having the tools

You are right to be worried. If we draft Jackson or Tatum and get a vet power foward Bender will be buried. It is amazing that the local media has just given Watson a pass for the way he split minutes between Chriss and Bender last season. Chriss was basically allowed to play until he fouled out. Meanwhile Bender was pulled early even if playing well.

I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.

ShelC wrote:Semi scares me as the wrong kind of tweener. Seems like an undersized college 4 without the real perimeter skills to play both positions. Undersized for the NBA 4, not skilled enough for the NBA 3. Teams looking for the next Draymond will make a mistake with players like this.

Where is this Draymond Green stuff coming from? I don't think he is anything like Draymond.

Indy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.

It could be Isaac. I think it's Fox though. BTW, I know Isaac didn't drive much to the hoop or handle the ball, but he was a pg early in high school prior to a big growth spurt. Also, looking at his hs work, he took people off the dribble, so he can do it. Could have been held back a bit at FSU.

INFORMER wrote:

ShelC wrote:Semi scares me as the wrong kind of tweener. Seems like an undersized college 4 without the real perimeter skills to play both positions. Undersized for the NBA 4, not skilled enough for the NBA 3. Teams looking for the next Draymond will make a mistake with players like this.

Where is this Draymond Green stuff coming from? I don't think he is anything like Draymond.

I think it's a bit of the undersized 4 with some outside shooting skills that people make the leap to Draymond.