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Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:05 pm
by specialsauce
carey wrote:Cleveland wants a king's ransom for Kyrie. Best to just stay the f*** away. Even the proposed deals by media are laughable.
Broussard: Bledsoe + Booker for Kyrie
Simmons; 3 way with NY in which we give up Bledsoe AND a first for Ntilikina and Shumpert's s*** deal.
Gambo: Saying it will take Bledsoe, JJ, PLUS assets.
Don't listen to Broussard he doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about and he hasn't known for years. Absolutely hate that guy
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:05 pm
by carey
specialsauce wrote:I would trade anything other than Booker or Jackson.
I would also trade the lesser of Miami and our own pick this year.
Bled/Chriss or Warren/Chandler/2018 1st for Kyrie/Frye and change
Yeah, I don't think either of those are close. Anyway, I don't like Kyrie + Booker as a back court.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:44 pm
by In2ition
Latest I heard is now something like Bled, Chandler and possibly Warren OUT, ---> Ntilikina, Frye (Expiring contract) and draft picks IN.
I actually might think about this very heavily. Fits #TheTimeline, and possibly be able to free up cap room for next year. Could use a crap pick to send off Knight if needed. I'd love to see what the cap room would look like next year.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:45 pm
by specialsauce
No to including Warren in that deal.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:05 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote:Latest I heard is now something like Bled, Chandler and possibly Warren OUT, ---> Ntilikina, Frye (Expiring contract) and draft picks IN.
I actually might think about this very heavily. Fits #TheTimeline, and possibly be able to free up cap room for next year. Could use a crap pick to send off Knight if needed. I'd love to see what the cap room would look like next year.
I might be tempted by something like this. We get younger and get a RASE (Real All-Star in the East). Warren and Jackson would be competing for minutes anyway and he appears to possibly have a fragile ego.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:09 pm
by specialsauce
Who's the RASE we get??
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:10 pm
by Superbone
specialsauce wrote:Who's the RASE we get??
Oh, I thought we were getting Kyrie. Never mind. No wonder it sounded too good to be true.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:21 pm
by In2ition
Yeah, Kyrie would go to NY, Melo to Cleveland. Warren might not be involved. I think this could work for all teams involved.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:29 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote:Yeah, Kyrie would go to NY, Melo to Cleveland. Warren might not be involved. I think this could work for all teams involved.
I think INF would jump on this. Pretty sure he said he is a big fan of Ntilikina. We would get much younger, more draft picks, and everybody would be on the same timeline. Our only veterans left would be Dudley and Frye.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:33 pm
by Sunsfan4life
Superbone wrote:In2ition wrote:Yeah, Kyrie would go to NY, Melo to Cleveland. Warren might not be involved. I think this could work for all teams involved.
I think INF would jump on this. Pretty sure he said he is a big fan of Ntilikina. We would get much younger, more draft picks, and everybody would be on the same timeline. Our only veterans left would be Dudley and Frye.
I think this is where you cash Bledsoe in. You can also maximize chandler in a trade like this I feel.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:37 pm
by specialsauce
I would do it if it didn't include us getting back any shit contracts other than Frye's expiring (unless we can throw in BK), none of our young guys, and none of our picks.
If it's Bledsoe and Chandler for Ntilikina and a pick, I'd take it.
Though I'd rather be the team getting Kyrie back.......
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:11 pm
by carey
I'm ok with trading Bledsoe & Chandler for Frank, Frye and picks. Knight is the tank commander!
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Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:11 pm
by carey
carey wrote:I'm ok with trading Bledsoe & Chandler for Frank, Frye and picks. Knight is the tank commander!
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Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:15 pm
by Split T
carey wrote:Cleveland wants a king's ransom for Kyrie. Best to just stay the f*** away. Even the proposed deals by media are laughable.
Broussard: Bledsoe + Booker for Kyrie
Simmons; 3 way with NY in which we give up Bledsoe AND a first for Ntilikina and Shumpert's s*** deal.
Gambo: Saying it will take Bledsoe, JJ, PLUS assets.
Update to Simmons proposed deal. I'd do it.
https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/888519608356950016
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:17 pm
by carey
No. Cavs get 2nd & 3rd best player and a pick? We get the pick.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:21 pm
by Split T
carey wrote:No. Cavs get 2nd & 3rd best player and a pick? We get the pick.
They are also giving up by far the player with the most value. We'd be moving bled for Ntilikina. I think he's potentially a great fit next to Booker Jackson. He defends, he can spot up, and he can run an offense. He's not ready, so we probably start ulis at first, but I'm ok with that.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:32 pm
by EDC
Split T wrote:carey wrote:No. Cavs get 2nd & 3rd best player and a pick? We get the pick.
They are also giving up by far the player with the most value. We'd be moving bled for Ntilikina. I think he's potentially a great fit next to Booker Jackson. He defends, he can spot up, and he can run an offense. He's not ready, so we probably start ulis at first, but I'm ok with that.
I really like the idea of putting defensive guys around Booker. Bledsoe for an eight pick works for me. I would love a pick as well but either way I would do that trade.
I don't think NY would do it though. They give up an eight pick, Melo and a pick for basically just Kyrie. I think the Cavs have to give up a pick to NY at least.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:33 pm
by Superbone
carey wrote:No. Cavs get 2nd & 3rd best player and a pick? We get the pick.
I agree that that's a weak return for our best player. Pick or no deal.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:35 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote:carey wrote:No. Cavs get 2nd & 3rd best player and a pick? We get the pick.
They are also giving up by far the player with the most value. We'd be moving bled for Ntilikina. I think he's potentially a great fit next to Booker Jackson. He defends, he can spot up, and he can run an offense. He's not ready, so we probably start ulis at first, but I'm ok with that.
Is he a passing PG? From what I have watched so far, he seems to be a shoot first PG. If that's the case, no thanks.
Re: Around the League: The Offseason
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:50 pm
by Split T
Superbone wrote:Split T wrote:carey wrote:No. Cavs get 2nd & 3rd best player and a pick? We get the pick.
They are also giving up by far the player with the most value. We'd be moving bled for Ntilikina. I think he's potentially a great fit next to Booker Jackson. He defends, he can spot up, and he can run an offense. He's not ready, so we probably start ulis at first, but I'm ok with that.
Is he a passing PG? From what I have watched so far, he seems to be a shoot first PG. If that's the case, no thanks.
Probably too early in his development to tell. What we know is he's 6'5-6'6 with a rumored 7'0 wingspan. He projects as a great defender and he can shoot. Shot over 40% from 3. He's shown enough PG skills to be considered a PG. I think he projects more as a low usage PG. Someone like George Hill/Pat Beverley but bigger and longer.