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Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:54 pm
by Indy
In2ition wrote:
Indy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
It could be Isaac. I think it's Fox though. BTW, I know Isaac didn't drive much to the hoop or handle the ball, but he was a pg early in high school prior to a big growth spurt. Also, looking at his hs work, he took people off the dribble, so he can do it. Could have been held back a bit at FSU.
Didn't they basically split the minutes equally among everyone there?

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:55 pm
by iLLmatic
Is it bad that I want us to take Fox so we can finally get rid of Bledsoe? Also, if Porzingis is available for Chris's and our 4th according to the NY paper, why haven't we pulled the trigger on that?

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:55 pm
by INFORMER
Indy wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
carey wrote:New video from DX on Ntilikina. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/fra ... ysis-6054/
Thanks for the link. I still like his fit next to Booker a lot. Of course, everyone sounds good at draft time, but this is a big defender who can play at his spot now and grow into a bigger role as he matures. Obvs, I wouldn't take him with the 4, but I would be happy to get him + something.
I'd have no problem taking Ntilikina at #4.
What if we have no intention of trading Bledsoe?
I would hate to allow Bledsoe's presence to influence how the Suns drafted. I'm generally against passing on guys because of a player on the roster that doesn't move the needle.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:56 pm
by Split T
In2ition wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
ShelC wrote:Semi scares me as the wrong kind of tweener. Seems like an undersized college 4 without the real perimeter skills to play both positions. Undersized for the NBA 4, not skilled enough for the NBA 3. Teams looking for the next Draymond will make a mistake with players like this.
Where is this Draymond Green stuff coming from? I don't think he is anything like Draymond.
I think it's a bit of the undersized 4 with some outside shooting skills that people make the leap to Draymond.
Yep, just people trying to find the next dray and seeing someone about the same size

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:56 pm
by In2ition
Indy wrote:
In2ition wrote:
Indy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
It could be Isaac. I think it's Fox though. BTW, I know Isaac didn't drive much to the hoop or handle the ball, but he was a pg early in high school prior to a big growth spurt. Also, looking at his hs work, he took people off the dribble, so he can do it. Could have been held back a bit at FSU.
Didn't they basically split the minutes equally among everyone there?
That, I'm unaware of. Interesting if that's the case. Not hugely impressed with Leonard Hamilton's coaching. Not a hater, but not a fan either.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:56 pm
by Indy
INFORMER wrote:
Indy wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
carey wrote:New video from DX on Ntilikina. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/fra ... ysis-6054/
Thanks for the link. I still like his fit next to Booker a lot. Of course, everyone sounds good at draft time, but this is a big defender who can play at his spot now and grow into a bigger role as he matures. Obvs, I wouldn't take him with the 4, but I would be happy to get him + something.
I'd have no problem taking Ntilikina at #4.
What if we have no intention of trading Bledsoe?
I would hate to allow Bledsoe's presence to influence how the Suns drafted. I'm generally against passing on guys because of a player on the roster that doesn't move the needle.
I guess I meant if we are going to keep Bledsoe, Ullis and Knight, no way we take him.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:57 pm
by iLLmatic
What do you think of Dennis Smith INF?

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:58 pm
by Split T
Indy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
Luckily I don't think they have the assets to get Isaac. I'm leaning slightly towards him as my pick. Jackson an incredibly close 2nd

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:59 pm
by In2ition
INFORMER wrote:
Indy wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
carey wrote:New video from DX on Ntilikina. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/fra ... ysis-6054/
Thanks for the link. I still like his fit next to Booker a lot. Of course, everyone sounds good at draft time, but this is a big defender who can play at his spot now and grow into a bigger role as he matures. Obvs, I wouldn't take him with the 4, but I would be happy to get him + something.
I'd have no problem taking Ntilikina at #4.
What if we have no intention of trading Bledsoe?
I would hate to allow Bledsoe's presence to influence how the Suns drafted. I'm generally against passing on guys because of a player on the roster that doesn't move the needle.
I can agree with that all day long. I like Bledsoe and think he's the best player on the Suns, but I'm convinced that he needs to be moved today or tomorrow. Got to give you credit INF, you were on this train way way early.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:59 pm
by Indy
Split T wrote:
Indy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
Luckily I don't think they have the assets to get Isaac. I'm leaning slightly towards him as my pick. Jackson an incredibly close 2nd
I can see sac giving them 5 for LMA.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:00 pm
by Indy
In2ition wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
Indy wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
Thanks for the link. I still like his fit next to Booker a lot. Of course, everyone sounds good at draft time, but this is a big defender who can play at his spot now and grow into a bigger role as he matures. Obvs, I wouldn't take him with the 4, but I would be happy to get him + something.
I'd have no problem taking Ntilikina at #4.
What if we have no intention of trading Bledsoe?
I would hate to allow Bledsoe's presence to influence how the Suns drafted. I'm generally against passing on guys because of a player on the roster that doesn't move the needle.
I can agree with that all day long. I like Bledsoe and think he's the best player on the Suns, but I'm convinced that he needs to be moved today or tomorrow. Got to give you credit INF, you were on this train way way early.
Like at the beginning.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:01 pm
by In2ition
Indy wrote:
Split T wrote:
Indy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
Luckily I don't think they have the assets to get Isaac. I'm leaning slightly towards him as my pick. Jackson an incredibly close 2nd
I can see sac giving them 5 for LMA.
And Green, right?

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:01 pm
by In2ition
Indy wrote:
In2ition wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
Indy wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
I'd have no problem taking Ntilikina at #4.
What if we have no intention of trading Bledsoe?
I would hate to allow Bledsoe's presence to influence how the Suns drafted. I'm generally against passing on guys because of a player on the roster that doesn't move the needle.
I can agree with that all day long. I like Bledsoe and think he's the best player on the Suns, but I'm convinced that he needs to be moved today or tomorrow. Got to give you credit INF, you were on this train way way early.
Like at the beginning.
Before there was a beginning.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:02 pm
by Indy
I think that was for 3 from Boston. Not sure what Sac will do. Probably something stupid.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:02 pm
by Split T
Indy wrote:
Split T wrote:
Indy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
Luckily I don't think they have the assets to get Isaac. I'm leaning slightly towards him as my pick. Jackson an incredibly close 2nd
I can see sac giving them 5 for LMA.
SAC is a bit of a wildcard, but I think they really want fox.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:02 pm
by In2ition
Indy wrote:I think that was for 3 from Boston. Not sure what Sac will do. Probably something stupid.
Especially if the Suns take Fox.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:03 pm
by Split T
I think they'd gladly take Jackson if we take fox

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:04 pm
by Indy
I just hope we draft someone we want instead of drafting someone we hope someone else wants more.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:04 pm
by In2ition
Indy wrote:I just hope we draft someone we want instead of drafting someone we hope someone else wants more.
Agreed. No more Tyler Ennis debacles.

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:07 pm
by INFORMER
Superbone wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
Superbone wrote:I'm really curious to hear your favorites at pick 4, INF. Particularly, Tatum vs. Isaac.
There is something to like and dislike about both.

Tatum is a shot-maker, but I worry about what else he can bring to the table at the pro level. I question his toughness.

Issac looks more like a novelty than a legit prospect. He has above average handle, seems to have good awareness on the offensive end, but I have doubts that it will ever add up to anything substantial at the pro level.

I wouldn't be upset with either, but I can't say either one moves the needle for me.
Thanks. And where would Jackson fit in there?
I think Josh Jackson is the superior talent to both of them, but his character issues and being from Kansas scare me.