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Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:53 pm
by Superbone
Booker said he is done losing. This is a move that helps his cause. End of story.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:54 pm
by UglyTruth
This signing isn't bad but it's bizarre. We are now a team with all wings and very little playmaking or inside scoring.
If the Suns seriously think Knight can become a starter PG then idk what to tell them.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:54 pm
by iLLmatic
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:49 pm
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:47 pm
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:45 pm
carey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:42 pm
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013281263518732288
Ariza 1yr/$15M
LOVE the 1-yead deal.
What are they doing on Jefferson Street? I don't get this signing at all. We have enough wings, why bring another in and steal minutes from our youth? Especially considering we gave up our treasured Heat pick for said youth.
Win now! We're going all-in on a 40-win season. Plus the mentoring. THE MENTORING!!!
Damn near 40 million is going to be tied up in mentoring this year. SMH.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:55 pm
by INFORMER
This is why it is counterproductive to put your GM on the hotseat. Either fire him or be patient. But only smart owners think that way. Only a dumb owner has the replacement and incumbent working together, and only a dumb owner would watch his GM flush a 1st round draft pick and $15 million in cap space down the toilet while we get the sequel to Point Guardians of the Galaxy: The Wings Edition.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:57 pm
by iLLmatic
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:51 pm
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:47 pm
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:45 pm
carey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:42 pm
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013281263518732288
Ariza 1yr/$15M
LOVE the 1-yead deal.
What are they doing on Jefferson Street? I don't get this signing at all. We have enough wings, why bring another in and steal minutes from our youth? Especially considering we gave up our treasured Heat pick for said youth.
The Ariza deal is a 1-year deal. The trade for Bridges is about the next 4+ years.
I understand that. He's not going to play much this year with the jammed up roster at the wing position. McD is showing he has no real plan for building this roster. He thinks it's his fantasy basketball team.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:57 pm
by Superbone
What hasn't been discussed is how much this is going to hurt the Rockets. It's going to have a negative effect on them.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:57 pm
by INFORMER
UglyTruth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:54 pm
We are now a team with all wings and very little playmaking or inside scoring.
Ayton will have the inside scoring covered. Jackson also is adept at getting to the basket. We should be ok on that front.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:57 pm
by n4th4n
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:45 pm
First, I don't think we needed to use all the cap space on signing one guy. I would have preferred to use it on a few low cost guys, like an Anthony Tolliver. I would have looked to use the space to facilitate a trade or two, and then also keep some cap room for an in-season deal.
Wait. So you would have rather spent the money on multiple players who would crowd the roster even more while moving the needle less?
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:58 pm
by specialsauce
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:57 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:45 pm
First, I don't think we needed to use all the cap space on signing one guy. I would have preferred to use it on a few low cost guys, like an Anthony Tolliver. I would have looked to use the space to facilitate a trade or two, and then also keep some cap room for an in-season deal.
Wait. So you would have rather spent the money on multiple players who would crowd the roster even more while moving the needle less?
Anthony Tolliver! Lol
I’d rather just leave an empty seat than have that guy take up a spot.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:58 pm
by iLLmatic
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:55 pm
This is why it is counterproductive to put your GM on the hotseat. Either fire him or be patient. But only smart owners think that way. Only a dumb owner has the replacement and incumbent working together, and only a dumb owner would watch his GM flush a 1st round draft pick and $15 million in cap space down the toilet while we get the sequel to Point Guardians of the Galaxy: The Wings Edition.
To be fair to McDonough and Sarver, I believe they are feeling heat from Booker's camp.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:59 pm
by INFORMER
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:53 pm
Booker said he is done losing. This is a move that helps his cause. End of story.
'bone, you've talked yourself into backing every bad move Ryan has made, so I don't expect anything different with this.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:00 pm
by n4th4n
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:57 pm
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:51 pm
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:47 pm
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:45 pm
carey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:42 pm
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013281263518732288
Ariza 1yr/$15M
LOVE the 1-yead deal.
What are they doing on Jefferson Street? I don't get this signing at all. We have enough wings, why bring another in and steal minutes from our youth? Especially considering we gave up our treasured Heat pick for said youth.
The Ariza deal is a 1-year deal. The trade for Bridges is about the next 4+ years.
I understand that. He's not going to play much this year with the jammed up roster at the wing position. McD is showing he has no real plan for building this roster. He thinks it's his fantasy basketball team.
No, you just misunderstand the plan. He doesn't want to be over-reliant on rookies. That doesn't end well. We have all seen that. Bridges is still going to play. This gives him a season to play and develop without being depended on to win. Then he can step into a starter's role next year.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:01 pm
by INFORMER
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:58 pm
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:57 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:45 pm
First, I don't think we needed to use all the cap space on signing one guy. I would have preferred to use it on a few low cost guys, like an Anthony Tolliver. I would have looked to use the space to facilitate a trade or two, and then also keep some cap room for an in-season deal.
Wait. So you would have rather spent the money on multiple players who would crowd the roster even more while moving the needle less?
Anthony Tolliver! Lol
I know, silly me, liking 43% 3-Point shooting from a stretch 4.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:01 pm
by n4th4n
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:59 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:53 pm
Booker said he is done losing. This is a move that helps his cause. End of story.
'bone, you've talked yourself into backing every bad move Ryan has made, so I don't expect anything different with this.
While you would still be complaining about "bad moves" even if we were throwing a championship parade.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:02 pm
by TOO
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:59 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:53 pm
Booker said he is done losing. This is a move that helps his cause. End of story.
'bone, you've talked yourself into backing every bad move Ryan has made, so I don't expect anything different with this.
You're on the opposite of the spectrum, so goes the cycle. Same ol shit.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:03 pm
by iLLmatic
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:01 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:59 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:53 pm
Booker said he is done losing. This is a move that helps his cause. End of story.
'bone, you've talked yourself into backing every bad move Ryan has made, so I don't expect anything different with this.
While you would still be complaining about "bad moves" even if we were throwing a championship parade.
Ryan hasn't given much reason to be positive over.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:04 pm
by Superbone
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:59 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:53 pm
Booker said he is done losing. This is a move that helps his cause. End of story.
'bone, you've talked yourself into backing every bad move Ryan has made, so I don't expect anything different with this.
Give me a break. Talk about lazy.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:04 pm
by n4th4n
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:01 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:58 pm
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:57 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:45 pm
First, I don't think we needed to use all the cap space on signing one guy. I would have preferred to use it on a few low cost guys, like an Anthony Tolliver. I would have looked to use the space to facilitate a trade or two, and then also keep some cap room for an in-season deal.
Wait. So you would have rather spent the money on multiple players who would crowd the roster even more while moving the needle less?
Anthony Tolliver! Lol
I know, silly me, liking a 43% 3-Point shooting from a stretch 4.
He also averaged 3 RPG and had a -.8 DBPM
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:05 pm
by specialsauce
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:01 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:59 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:53 pm
Booker said he is done losing. This is a move that helps his cause. End of story.
'bone, you've talked yourself into backing every bad move Ryan has made, so I don't expect anything different with this.
While you would still be complaining about "bad moves" even if we were throwing a championship parade.
He prefers to bring in undrafted FAs Thiz Pinson and Jartavius McKinnon as our starting PFs of the future.
If it’s a trendy player, he ain’t about it. Has to be a player nobody else in the league values.
Come on man, this is a good move. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
The biggest problem with last year was being forced to play the young guys because we had nobody else. This is great. A mentor that can actually play and will push the young guys for minutes for a year.
I am so happy we didn’t overspend on a multiyear deal for a mediocre player like Jabari or Aaron Gordon. Now that would have been a franchise killer.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:06 pm
by Superbone
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:05 pm
n4th4n wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:01 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:59 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:53 pm
Booker said he is done losing. This is a move that helps his cause. End of story.
'bone, you've talked yourself into backing every bad move Ryan has made, so I don't expect anything different with this.
While you would still be complaining about "bad moves" even if we were throwing a championship parade.
He prefers to bring in undrafted FAs Thiz Pinson and Jartavius McKinnon as our starting PFs of the future.
If it’s a trendy player, he ain’t about it. Has to be a player nobody else in the league values.
Come on man, this is a good move. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
The biggest problem with last year was being forced to play the young guys because we had nobody else. This is great. A mentor that can actually play and will push the young guys for minutes for a year.
I am so happy we didn’t overspend on a multiyear deal for a mediocre player like Jabari or Aaron Gordon. Now that would have been a franchise killer.
Thank you for a little humor and common sense.