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Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:59 am
by Indy
bajanguy008 wrote:Indy wrote:Or are they doing that on purpose so they can talk to the teams that want Fox, and Jackson, and Isaac...
Well 10 more hours of us guessing lol. I think the Porzinigis thing isn't happening as most reports has it as Booker or no deal and can't see us agreeing to that
Agreed, unfortunately.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:11 am
by O_Gardino
Indy wrote:O_Gardino wrote:This draft reminds me of 1999, when there were so many star talents who didn't turn out to be superstars. I think there are a lot of great role players available.
My preference:
Trade for Porzingis
Get two guys: Ntilikina and either Isaac or Monk
Draft Fox, trade Bled and spend a year growing the young guys.
Are these 3 different options? I was assuming that if we get Frank, we would trade Bled. I would LOVE to find a way to add Isaac and Frank if that meant we were trading Bledsoe. What could we give Sac for #5 in addition to Bledsoe?
That was 3 different options. If we did all that and kept Booker, I would grade the draft an A.
I haven't seen enough from the Suns to trust that they won't overload a position. There is no indication that they won't draft Fox, keep Bled, and tell us "lots of talent is a good problem. Now we can withstand an injury and still compete."
And I would be over the moon if we turned Bled + something into #5. Don't think Sac does it, though. Maybe Bled + #4 for #5 and #10. Probably not, though.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:13 am
by Indy
O_Gardino wrote:Indy wrote:O_Gardino wrote:This draft reminds me of 1999, when there were so many star talents who didn't turn out to be superstars. I think there are a lot of great role players available.
My preference:
Trade for Porzingis
Get two guys: Ntilikina and either Isaac or Monk
Draft Fox, trade Bled and spend a year growing the young guys.
Are these 3 different options? I was assuming that if we get Frank, we would trade Bled. I would LOVE to find a way to add Isaac and Frank if that meant we were trading Bledsoe. What could we give Sac for #5 in addition to Bledsoe?
That was 3 different options. If we did all that and kept Booker, I would grade the draft an A.
I haven't seen enough from the Suns to trust that they won't overload a position. There is no indication that they won't draft Fox, keep Bled, and tell us "lots of talent is a good problem. Now we can withstand an injury and still compete."
And I would be over the moon if we turned Bled + something into #5. Don't think Sac does it, though. Maybe Bled + #4 for #5 and #10. Probably not, though.
That would all depend of if they think Bled is better than Fox (age, injuries, salary, etc), AND we think our guys will be there at 5 and 10. It doesn't seem that either Isaac or Frank will be.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:33 am
by bajanguy008
Hmmmm....
Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @WojVerticalNBA 25m ago
Tremendous appetite around the NBA to trade into the Top 4 to select Kansas' Josh Jackson, league executives tell @TheVertical.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:53 am
by carey
https://twitter.com/AZSports/status/877930981340069889
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:56 am
by TOO
Interesting. Fox if not Tatum please. Good bye Eric.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:20 am
by JCSunsfan
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Superbone wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Superbone wrote:Hey, TOO. I just watched the NBA TV mock draft and you'll be glad to know they picked Josh Jackson third and have the Suns taking Tatum fourth. Everything I read points to the Celtics taking Tatum. But then I think about how Ainge likes to deceive everybody. So, maybe he is taking Jackson.
I can only hope, but the more we sit here and wait, the less I think we actually pick at 4 tomorrow.
What's the thinking behind that?
Thinking that McD and Sarver will lose their new found patience and want to pair someone with Booker and then chase a big name FA to make the playoffs.
OK. If Bledsoe and Chriss are traded to get Porzingins, The Suns need a pg. I would think we go after one in free agency. I will have to look to see who is available.
Ulis, Knight
Booker, Barbosa
Warren, DJones Jr
Porzingis, Bender
Chandler, Williams
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:27 am
by O_Gardino
JCSunsfan wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Superbone wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Superbone wrote:Hey, TOO. I just watched the NBA TV mock draft and you'll be glad to know they picked Josh Jackson third and have the Suns taking Tatum fourth. Everything I read points to the Celtics taking Tatum. But then I think about how Ainge likes to deceive everybody. So, maybe he is taking Jackson.
I can only hope, but the more we sit here and wait, the less I think we actually pick at 4 tomorrow.
What's the thinking behind that?
Thinking that McD and Sarver will lose their new found patience and want to pair someone with Booker and then chase a big name FA to make the playoffs.
OK. If Bledsoe and Chriss are traded to get Porzingins, The Suns need a pg. I would think we go after one in free agency. I will have to look to see who is available.
Ulis, Knight
Booker, Barbosa
Warren, DJones Jr
Porzingis, Bender
Chandler, Williams
Sign and trade Len for Rubio?
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:30 am
by EDC
RUBIO!!!!

Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:30 am
by carey
Some dude named Chris Paul is available.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:37 am
by In2ition
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Interesting. Fox if not Tatum please. Good bye Eric.
I'm with you on this.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:37 am
by TOO
Kyle Lowry, George Hill as well.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:39 am
by In2ition
JCSunsfan wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Superbone wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Superbone wrote:Hey, TOO. I just watched the NBA TV mock draft and you'll be glad to know they picked Josh Jackson third and have the Suns taking Tatum fourth. Everything I read points to the Celtics taking Tatum. But then I think about how Ainge likes to deceive everybody. So, maybe he is taking Jackson.
I can only hope, but the more we sit here and wait, the less I think we actually pick at 4 tomorrow.
What's the thinking behind that?
Thinking that McD and Sarver will lose their new found patience and want to pair someone with Booker and then chase a big name FA to make the playoffs.
OK. If Bledsoe and Chriss are traded to get Porzingins, The Suns need a pg. I would think we go after one in free agency. I will have to look to see who is available.
Ulis, Knight
Booker, Barbosa
Warren, DJones Jr
Porzingis, Bender
Chandler, Williams
I think you make Knight the starter and build his value back up.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:40 am
by O_Gardino
carey wrote:Some dude named Chris Paul is available.
Seems like he will stay in LA. But if Blake goes to the Celtics and D.Jordan is really on the trade block, maybe Paul goes somewhere else.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:41 am
by Superbone
Indy wrote:bajanguy008 wrote:Indy wrote:Split T wrote:New Chad Ford mock draft has Tatum to Celtics. Says we'd pick between Fox, Jackson, and Isaac. Says McD prefers Jackson, Watson prefers Isaac and sarver wants but Fox. Has us taking Fox.
This has me so conflicted. I don't like that Sarver is getting involved, and in the end has us taking his guy over the GM and the coach. But if that means he knows Bledsoe needs to be traded, I like it. Argh.
I sure hope this is not true, not because of the players but if our 3 "decision makers" all on different pages that is not a good sign
I get them all having their preferred prospect. I think that is fine. I actually like they all have their own opinions. Maybe just not leak it to the media...
That's fine but I don't want the owner to be the decision maker.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:44 am
by carey
Y'all know I hate Chris Paul but I'd stomach him here if he came because Bledsoe left and Porzingis arrived.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:47 am
by EDC
carey wrote:Y'all know I hate Chris Paul but I'd stomach him here if he came because Bledsoe left and Porzingis arrived.
Not sure if Chris could stand it here in Phoenix. As much time as he spends flopping around on the ground. The concrete is pretty hot this time of the year.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:48 am
by Superbone
carey wrote:Some dude named Chris Paul is available.
Isn't that the guy you refer to as CPMe?
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:53 am
by carey
Superbone wrote:carey wrote:Some dude named Chris Paul is available.
Isn't that the guy you refer to as CPMe?
Yeah or sometimes CPKnee. Depends on the day.
Re: 2017 Suns NBA Draft (4th, 32nd, 54th)
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:54 am
by carey
https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/877946772303130624